Hello everybody. I do the support for AVOV Technology as some of you may already know. I already got some wonderful feedback from users on what they think about our boxes. However, I really would like to hear more from the MAG community. Competition brews innovation. If it is a small change to the system or a brand new box, the industry progresses and the consumers have better quality content. I actively support this mentality since at the end of the day, I am a consumer as well.

I would love to hear what people think about their MAG boxes and how it compares against AVOV. MAG obviously wins by popularity and I would like to hear from some of you as to why? Is there a certain feature you find better on the MAG? Is it faster in certain things? Everybody has their own reasoning and I would love to know what yours is. I will be taking notes of what everybody says and then regularly meeting with the technical engineer of the company to discuss what I hear back from you. I can assure you we will most likely make some dramatic changes after we hear enough voice from the community. You can either directly respond into this thread or just PM if you wish. I will be actively checking back to see what people have to say. I thank anyone who takes their time to give us some feedback, it not only helps us grow as a company but also allows us to improve our product line and make more customers happy. Thanks in advance! :D

Hello david_avov,
I don't see a basics on which products can be compared. MAG is build on the consept of Linux open platform with built in features to avoid unintended. On the other hand, we have a closed Android platform. Comparing these two is equal to comparing bananas and oranges...

I visit a lot of forums, but never have I seen a MAG coders showing interst in an AVOV products neither the less trying to compare their products with yours.

I think this discution is pointless. Everyone has their clientel.

David..

i have a Mag254 , Avov1 and the Avov-TV-Online Box The Mag254 is very good IPTV box with Vod provided by NFPS service..not able to do kodi though.
The Avov boxes are easier to setup and use..They are dependant on Mickyhop for Apps such as 1channel ect Some would like the freedom to side load apps of their choice since Avov is Android driven...So having to be married to Mickyhop to me is a negative..The Avov1 can use the kodi app (lite version) only if the owner is a beta tester...why not open it up for more independant use by the users

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Originally Posted by xbmcbg

Hello david_avov,
I don't see a basics on which products can be compared. MAG is build on the consept of Linux open platform with built in features to avoid unintended. On the other hand, we have a closed Android platform. Comparing these two is equal to comparing bananas and oranges...

I visit a lot of forums, but never have I seen a MAG coders showing interst in an AVOV products neither the less trying to compare their products with yours.

I think this discution is pointless. Everyone has their clientel.

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I see what you are saying but I don't agree with you. Both companies specialize in making IPTV solutions for the end user. While the way it goes to do it may be different (different operating system, layouts, functionality) it still offers the same kind of service at the end of the day. Much like when Microsoft and Apple started out, their design choices were and still are very different. There are many noticeable characteristics found in the products of each company and many people choose sides for that reason. Sure the way they deal with things are different but they both offer the same end goal (I'm just talking about the PC). You can definitely compare a Microsoft PC to an Apple PC! For example what interface is easier to use, who has better performance for its cost, what kind of applications are available on it... the list goes on. While you may not view the topic that way especially through the eyes of a MAG coder, many end users do. I hope you understand where I am coming from.

I, for one, would be more interested in how avov has addressed the issue of their boxes needing hard boot to update time, date. While in stand by it doesn't do this, Mag for one, does. I would also like to know when the upgraded Icefilms will be available from the MickyMart, as the old one doesn't work on avov TVonline or avov vixo1, thks...

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Originally Posted by floder2

David..

i have a Mag254 , Avov1 and the Avov-TV-Online Box The Mag254 is very good IPTV box with Vod provided by NFPS service..not able to do kodi though.
The Avov boxes are easier to setup and use..They are dependant on Mickyhop for Apps such as 1channel ect Some would like the freedom to side load apps of their choice since Avov is Android driven...So having to be married to Mickyhop to me is a negative..The Avov1 can use the kodi app (lite version) only if the owner is a beta tester...why not open it up for more independant use by the users

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Thanks floder2 I will be making note of that. There are some reasons as to why the boxes are closed but there is definitely ways to make users have more freedom. I will see if I can push some features I believe would be great for users such as yourself. It obviously will come with time but that is why we are asking these questions now.

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Originally Posted by K00lKatT

I, for one, would be more interested in how avov has addressed the issue of their boxes needing hard boot to update time, date. While in stand by it doesn't do this, Mag for one, does. I would also like to know when the upgraded Icefilms will be available from the MickyMart, as the old one doesn't work on avov TVonline or avov vixo1, thks...

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There is a very big update for the TVOnline coming soon in which the MickyHop devs are working really hard on. I do not know if it addresses the time issue but that seems to be a problem on all consoles. I believe as soon as they get the TVOnline update out the door, they can focus their attention to some of the pressing bugs on the systems. The time update isn't a huge deal but it is something that needs to be fixed, I agree. I'll also raise the question about the Icefilms, once again that will likely need to wait after the update comes out. Thanks for letting me know though.

thank you, David, it's also my opinion that these posts and threads belong in the avov forum as we have many Mag users and I see no need to tie their forum up with avov issues, thks..

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Originally Posted by K00lKatT

thank you, David, it's also my opinion that these posts and threads belong in the avov forum as we have many Mag users and I see no need to tie their forum up with avov issues, thks..

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If you wish I suppose you can move it, I just thought it was appropriate as not all Mag users view the AVOV threads. I understand where you are coming from. I just wish to get some more feedback from MAG users, even the ones who never used our box but know of it.

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Originally Posted by david_avov

...... For example what interface is easier to use, who has better performance for its cost, what kind of applications are available on it... the list goes on. While you may not view the topic that way especially through the eyes of a MAG coder, many end users do. I hope you understand where I am coming from.

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Thank you for the answer. Unfortunately, you are protecting the company who is paying you, meanwhile, I am an independant user, who does not like being unintended. As you are talking about prices and freedom of source choice, compare MAG 260 and ANY of your products who are only comparable to it. You will clearly see my point. I know what i am talking about and you will too.

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Originally Posted by xbmcbg

Thank you for the answer. Unfortunately, you are protecting the company who is paying you, meanwhile, I am an independant user, who does not like being unintended. As you are talking about prices and freedom of source choice, compare MAG 260 and ANY of your products who are only comparable to it. You will clearly see my point. I know what i am talking about and you will too.

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I appreciate the response as well. I don't mean to start some kind of war or anything so I won't argue. I'm obviously from Avov so I have a bias towards their product, however that doesn't mean I don't respect the views of others such as yourself (hence why I made this thread). I was simply responding to you initial comment regarding this thread being pointless. I see what you are saying about having freedom and it is similar to what floder2 was saying so I have noted it down. I have browsed for a bit and there have been many comparison between the products with the TVOnline and the Mag254 having the biggest amount of discussion. I was just interested in placing those thoughts and opinions in one thread.

Thank you. You're someone to look up to. I have lots of respect toward people like you, who protect their ideas and built a real product out of them. But, I also have no intentions of starting a war.

Icefilms works for me on avov tv-online box and thats why i stayed out of it we all have are opinions good or bad as long as we keep it civil for one another

I been running the mag 254 for about 5 months still cant get my city for weather finally got time right cant recorded lots thing they need to fix and haven't yet wish they would it software they need to fix on this box and channel change and so on not to happy yet with this box now tv online box most cry about apps dont work movies are out of sync on show from movie 25 run to fast need fix that want more apps that work right each have there own problems but what i see the avov are working to get things fixed saying that still dont like sd on both boxes my tv was not made for sd said that many times now its not box fault hope to see a ufc fight in hd someday will tell you the true i run tv-online box more just because i can get movie25 or 1channel they need more apps thats why i run that box more so if avov is listening need better apps and think they want netflix fixed dont know why never use it and i'm only talking about this model not mag 260 or avov1 or 2 oh to get netflix to work get usb kb that helps a lot kids told me that they steal mine

I own a Mag 254, Hybrid + (don't see much mention of it but I believe its avov) and an AVOV VIOX 2 i prefer the VIOX2 for its versatility of kodi, tvonline, Micky Hop ,etc. Its runs smoother than the Mag. But the IPTV portion of the Mag I prefer over the TV Online. The guide is much like an on screen guide on any of the Sat providers. The TV Online version is a guide channel by channel the Mag shows 8 or 10 channels at once. Just my .02 others may think differently. The overall look of the Mag with the channel list etc. is much nicer

I have mag 254 and avovonline,and I notice a slight color clarity to the mag 254 than the avov,but it could also be the tv since both are smart but one is samsung and other is sony,there is more clarity on the mag 254 compared to avovonline,swapped the machines and is the same light crysper on mag254 compared to avovtvonline,but I use avov more cause of the program that are on avovtvonline,compared to mag,other wise both are good machines.But the edge goes to the avov on the ability to have other programs ,that come with it;The clarity issue isn't a major factor since unless you put both of them side by side it isnt notisable,which is what I did.

I can't compare as MAG is the only solution out of the 2 I have access to here in Europe for a reasonable price. Im not saying Avov is expensive but at it's price if you go thru customs that adds an aditional 50-60 Euro/USd in customs.

I would love to try both options but MAG is so easy to get hold of, that could be a reason as to why there are so many. Maybe a better distribution for EU or other countries would help. Success is not always quality, but a balance between price/quality/availability.

I do find this debate interesting, and ofcourse you can compare 2 diferent products as they are diferent. I find it less logical comparing to MAG 254s. This type of debate is good if you are thinking of one or the other there might be some specifics that might push you either way.

PLS let me know when available from EU locally.

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I own a Mag 254, Hybrid + (don't see much mention of it but I believe its avov) and an AVOV VIOX 2 i prefer the VIOX2 for its versatility of kodi, tvonline, Micky Hop ,etc. Its runs smoother than the Mag. But the IPTV portion of the Mag I prefer over the TV Online. The guide is much like an on screen guide on any of the Sat providers. The TV Online version is a guide channel by channel the Mag shows 8 or 10 channels at once. Just my .02 others may think differently. The overall look of the Mag with the channel list etc. is much nicer

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Thanks for that. Definitively will be looking into this.

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Originally Posted by asft

I been running the mag 254 for about 5 months still cant get my city for weather finally got time right cant recorded lots thing they need to fix and haven't yet wish they would it software they need to fix on this box and channel change and so on not to happy yet with this box now tv online box most cry about apps dont work movies are out of sync on show from movie 25 run to fast need fix that want more apps that work right each have there own problems but what i see the avov are working to get things fixed saying that still dont like sd on both boxes my tv was not made for sd said that many times now its not box fault hope to see a ufc fight in hd someday will tell you the true i run tv-online box more just because i can get movie25 or 1channel they need more apps thats why i run that box more so if avov is listening need better apps and think they want netflix fixed dont know why never use it and i'm only talking about this model not mag 260 or avov1 or 2 oh to get netflix to work get usb kb that helps a lot kids told me that they steal mine

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We've been hearing that a lot and we've listened. Stay tuned for a huge software update for the TVOnline sometime in the following week or so!

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Originally Posted by MikeLDN

I can't compare as MAG is the only solution out of the 2 I have access to here in Europe for a reasonable price. Im not saying Avov is expensive but at it's price if you go thru customs that adds an aditional 50-60 Euro/USd in customs.

I would love to try both options but MAG is so easy to get hold of, that could be a reason as to why there are so many. Maybe a better distribution for EU or other countries would help. Success is not always quality, but a balance between price/quality/availability.

I do find this debate interesting, and ofcourse you can compare 2 diferent products as they are diferent. I find it less logical comparing to MAG 254s. This type of debate is good if you are thinking of one or the other there might be some specifics that might push you either way.

PLS let me know when available from EU locally.

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Yes we are working on that. We are actively looking for resellers in the EU region. While we are located in Toronto Canada, we have great shipping rates thoughout North America. Unfortunately we do not get enough volume over seas to get a good enough rate through our shipping provider. We are already talking with some large companies in that area so hopefully it is soon to change. You raise an excellent point though about price and I will definitely go over it with the engineer. There may be other ways to cut down costs as apposed to have local resellers which is something for us to consider.

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Originally Posted by MikeLDN

I can't compare as MAG is the only solution out of the 2 I have access to here in Europe for a reasonable price. Im not saying Avov is expensive but at it's price if you go thru customs that adds an aditional 50-60 Euro/USd in customs.

I would love to try both options but MAG is so easy to get hold of, that could be a reason as to why there are so many. Maybe a better distribution for EU or other countries would help. Success is not always quality, but a balance between price/quality/availability.

I do find this debate interesting, and ofcourse you can compare 2 diferent products as they are diferent. I find it less logical comparing to MAG 254s. This type of debate is good if you are thinking of one or the other there might be some specifics that might push you either way.

PLS let me know when available from EU locally.

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In Europe you have a much better box.

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This thread, although useful, is like in the early days of FTA. The two leading receivers were head to head in a "I have a better receiver". Two thing evolved through this. One was they both benefited by the comparisons, they strived to out do the other, therefore made two excellent receivers. Two, this caught the eye of the satellite providers and they both payed the price in the end by being abandoned by the designers for "health" reasons, if you know what I mean. I have both units plus a third and I like my third the vixo 2. I also noticed that the Mag 254 has added some apps but far from enough or the correct ones to excel, looking for more apps.

i dont have time to read the previous threads but this is my situation... i have the mag 254 and the Avov tv online and the Avov vixo2 ... and i just put it in order from least to greatest.. in fact if yal was to have the Avov vixo 2 u will throw the mag in the trash.. its not even close .. i actually had bought like 3 or 4 mag 254s .. the Avov tv online is better than the mag.. more stuff to watch.. and the vixo2 have so much stuff to watch that it is unbelievable.. it will take u about 30 min to find something to watch on the vixo 2 just because ur gonna keep searching through movies and shows.. vixo 2 is the best thing ever and im comparing it to iks also.. i had a coolsat 6000 and still have the dreamlink t5.. vixo 2 is the leading the pack

In this game there are two different teams , one composed of ordinary viewers who just want to watch a free ( cheap ) TV and the other is composed of people for whom it is a hobby and want to look a little deeper into the process . You are definitely not from the second team .

i agree .. im trying to get cheap tv.. thats the main purpose ,.. but i also have all of those boxes so i should know which is the better choice .. especially when i can view each of them anytime i get ready..

all i use is my avov vixo 2 been saying that from day one

This is actually Android with emulator. Works, but is slow ( slower than MAG200), his lack some features crashes when a large number of channels and most importantly - its maximum resolution is 1280x720 (HD Ready). The shortcomings of current devices with Android and explain why now (first half of 2015) are not suitable for TV , see here: http://iptvtalk.net/showthread.php?4...8307#post38307

I think you're totally wrong on that, I have all the boxes too and the Avov TV online is not better
Then the mag 254 and also the mag is not made for xbmc so you can't compare it to the vixo 2
But if you only need iptv mag 254 is totally a better box.

MAG has KODI also , it is installed in Inner Portal on Mag 254. That you do not have it does not mean that it is incompatible with the box , just not published for now not to spoil business of IPTV portals owner.

HOW-TO:Install Kodi for Linux

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hi, david why on the AVOV1 Channels like AMC (131), ESPN (140) and many other channel are in slow motion while in full screen, but once I go back to the channel list with the preview screen I can watch normally. In channels with less resolution everything is normal. I placed a service ticket with AVOV support Team regarding this issue. They are aware of these issues and say there are more updates coming.
Apparently its issues with Codec drivers. That is two months ago and never hear nothing from you guy is an updates coming or not thanks

Response from them you will never get ... , but I explained why this occurs and there is no way to be repaired with software update. http://iptvtalk.net/showthread.php?4...8307#post38307

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Response from them you will never get ... , but I explained why this occurs and there is no way to be repaired with software update. http://iptvtalk.net/showthread.php?4...8307#post38307

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Thanks xbmcbg, i red your post. question how come the Amazon fire tv box running kodi does not have this issues it is an android box right, or is it the Quad-core processor that give it a little more boost. thanks

In my post I did not say anything about KODI , and in your first question you did not mention KODI.
Be patient , I guess David will answer you soon.