Buffering

[Hank Venture]

Right now I am only pulling down 98KBPS from the server. That's barley better than dialup speed.

Anyone else having severe buffering issues?

100mps wired connection here and am pulling 30.6mbps from Netflix in the other room.

[floder2]

yes .......all the buffering and freezing is at their end (Server)...nothing wrong with peoples internet............They need to up the anti on the servers

[Hank Venture]

That's what I thought. Thank you.

One would assume at 80 per donation times at least a million people would provide enough money for quality servers and bandwidth.

IKS worked well until they started to play around with iptv. In my opinion they rolled this out way to early. Now lets hope they don't just take everyone's money and run.

[sat-junkie]

90% of the channels work flawless for me all the time..yeah there are a few that need work but I'm totally happy..If your using Kodi hit "o" on your keyboard to see the stream stats..i trust the kodi bandwidth stats more then what windows shows me in networking

[raiderblue17]

still running like dog Sheets... i would rather have just gotten streams from first row

[getochkn]

Ya if you want $150/month cable package that is flawless, than you have to pay $150. For $7 a month, you get what you get. lol.

[Hank Venture]

Where are you located, east coast or west?

I have 2 IPTV boxes and 2 IKS receivers. One Mag, one micro pc, and 2 jynx boxes.

I have been using IKS for several (+5) years with no more than the usual issues.

I have been using IPTV for months now with nothing but issues

I am only pulling down between 20kbps-200kbps from this server. I know about the O for info inside kodi, and I am using it along side an Ethernet monitor to check total bandwidth. This is not enough bandwidth to play anything.

I am on the west coast with 100mbps service from cox, so my speed is not an issue.

Every other streaming service I run (genesis, ice films, hulu, Netflix, xbox live runs at between 1.4-70Mbps, and plays flawless.

I have tried both major isp's in town and they are all the same.

I even took the micro pc to work at the newspaper and hooked it up to 1000mbps commercial service and still the same thing.

This is a server issue. If your on the east coast you are getting your bandwidth from the source quicker than I am and there is nothing left for us at this end.

I have been in IT at a major media company for 20 years. I think I know what I am talking about.

I am trying to find people with the same or close to the same issues. If your service is working that's great, but if you are like me and fighting to get anything to play please state your location and equipment used, and let us try and figure out what is going on.

If your service works great please put down your location and equipment used so we can rule some stuff out.

I truly wish someone from the backend checks this forum.

[raiderblue17]

Where are you located, east coast or west?

I have 2 IPTV boxes and 2 IKS receivers. One Mag, one micro pc, and 2 jynx boxes.

I have been using IKS for several (+5) years with no more than the usual issues.

I have been using IPTV for months now with nothing but issues

I am only pulling down between 20kbps-200kbps from this server. I know about the O for info inside kodi, and I am using it along side an Ethernet monitor to check total bandwidth. This is not enough bandwidth to play anything.

I am on the west coast with 100mbps service from cox, so my speed is not an issue.

Every other streaming service I run (genesis, ice films, hulu, Netflix, xbox live runs at between 1.4-70Mbps, and plays flawless.

I have tried both major isp's in town and they are all the same.

I even took the micro pc to work at the newspaper and hooked it up to 1000mbps commercial service and still the same thing.

This is a server issue. If your on the east coast you are getting your bandwidth from the source quicker than I am and there is nothing left for us at this end.

I have been in IT at a major media company for 20 years. I think I know what I am talking about.

I am trying to find people with the same or close to the same issues. If your service is working that's great, but if you are like me and fighting to get anything to play please state your location and equipment used, and let us try and figure out what is going on.

If your service works great please put down your location and equipment used so we can rule some stuff out.

I truly wish someone from the backend checks this forum.

In stl mo. Using a laptop quad core with direct Ethernet. System sucks

[sat-junkie]

I'm on the East coast running kodi 16 alpha on an 8 core 4 ghz cpu with 32 gigs of ram using w/ 256 gb SSD graphics are 2-6950 video cards..internet is cable is 60/5 when i hit o and watch the stats my bandwidth usage on the streams are from 1 to 2.5 mbit consistant


This is a server issue. If your on the east coast you are getting your bandwidth from the source quicker than I am and there is nothing left for us at this end.

I have been in IT at a major media company for 20 years. I think I know what I am talking about.


i laughed at this so hard...really loud!

[raiderblue17]

one guy says it works... rest say its shit... sounds like someone MIGHT BE WRONG!!!!

Laughy McGigglesworth

[sat-junkie]

I have an awesome isp what else can i say this service is worth every penny to me and my family...here come the shill comments lol just shows your intelligence.

[dan2015]

its got a lot better theses last couple of weeks keep up the great job thanks

[vidswaps]

Like I mentioned before in another post.
The problem with IPTV service in this part of the world is that the servers(NOT the newer models)are hosted in offshore countries(for obvious reasons)whose Internet Broadband infrastructure,and available tech personnel unfortunately can not provide the optimum service that most of us desire.
So the buffering(freezing)will be part of the course.
But I did NOT expect this constant buffering,and freezing we are experiencing right now.
Especially after most of the freeloaders are supposed to be gone.
So there should be less load on the servers,and the service should have improved,and NOT deteriorated.

[Hank Venture]

Exactly as I thought. East coast. Your not having any issues.

And as far as laughing so hard, at my statement. All that shows is you know nothing about servers or how they work.

Thanks for making me laugh.

[sat-junkie]

This statement from you shows me what your IT knowledge is..i can't believe you even said this.. really?


"This is a server issue. If your on the east coast you are getting your bandwidth from the source quicker than I am and there is nothing left for us at this end.

I have been in IT at a major media company for 20 years. I think I know what I am talking about. "

[floder2]

East and west coast means nothing the Servers are in Belize..... 31.220.2.36 is hosted on a dedicated server ................Internet bandwidth in Belize is probably not very reliable

[generica]

It is what it is, I have been saying it for some time now, it seems to work mind you from time to time but I am not holding my breath.

I use an M8S Quad Android and my PC from time to time as well.

Today is horrible, last night was passable ...

As far as streaming speeds .... how do you trigger the O monitor ?

And btw laughing out loud at others on the forum is really uncalled for.

The servers are hosted offshore so what? My donation went off shore as well, was it diminished?

If it is all about "you bought, now eat your baloney sandwich ... I think I will go back to eating Mortadella instead."

But I am still waiting to see if there is a magic recipe out there .... Seems like some folks will swear that one ISP is worth 10 of the others,
yeah and my Governor can beat up your Governor ....

[Hank Venture]

Just hit the letter O on a keyboard while watching a video on Kodi.

[Hank Venture]

And sat-junkie. What kind of D-Bag writes nothing but non helpful posts while people are looking for help. Oh yeah its you chuckle head.

Keep laughing funny guy.

[generica]

Ok

I tried that out, so what is this telling me ?

974

I did a quick speed test on the actual Android box itself and I got 7mpbs up and 9 down, my actual connections are at around 90mpbs from the ISP so it is a far cry from top notch.

[Hank Venture]

The second line of type shows 12.63 kbps. That is all your are getting from the server.

That is slower than dial up.

There is no wonder the service is not working for you.

Are you east or west coast.

[generica]

I am on the west coast, so is that indicative of the response from the server ?

Cause I can tell you my internet speed itself is fast and the Android is on a wired connection.

I will try the same thing on my PC Kodi to see if there is any difference.


And that 12.63 Kb/s reminds me almost of going back to the days of 300bps modems for Gods sake!!!

[Hank Venture]

Sorry that is the audio stream speed in kbps. That is a bad way to show approx. how fast your connection speed is. on the top line is shows 128kbps are needed. You are only getting a tenth of that.

If it cant buffer the audio it wont buffer video.

The fifth line shows how far forward the video buffer is. in your case it is zero.

try using task manager on network to see your total download speed.

[Hank Venture]

All of us having serious issues are on the west coast.

[Hank Venture]

If you try your pc please pull up task manager and go to the performance tab. then hit either Ethernet or wireless depending on your connection and read the receive speed.

[generica]

I checked a few other channels just to get a bit of an avg and the most I got was 97 so it is truly horrible.

I wonder if we could get a relay server in there somewhere ... or is there something that will allow you to buffer on the device prior to viewing it?

No wonder the freaking service is horrible....

I will try the same on my PC Kodi and then on the OPENELC as well to get a feel for any differences

[Hank Venture]

Line 4 will show the video speed, skipped and dropped frames.

yours is .04 mbps.

[scooter]

Where are you located, east coast or west?

I have 2 IPTV boxes and 2 IKS receivers. One Mag, one micro pc, and 2 jynx boxes.

I have been using IKS for several (+5) years with no more than the usual issues.

I have been using IPTV for months now with nothing but issues

I am only pulling down between 20kbps-200kbps from this server. I know about the O for info inside kodi, and I am using it along side an Ethernet monitor to check total bandwidth. This is not enough bandwidth to play anything.

I am on the west coast with 100mbps service from cox, so my speed is not an issue.

Every other streaming service I run (genesis, ice films, hulu, Netflix, xbox live runs at between 1.4-70Mbps, and plays flawless.

I have tried both major isp's in town and they are all the same.

I even took the micro pc to work at the newspaper and hooked it up to 1000mbps commercial service and still the same thing.

This is a server issue. If your on the east coast you are getting your bandwidth from the source quicker than I am and there is nothing left for us at this end.

I have been in IT at a major media company for 20 years. I think I know what I am talking about.

I am trying to find people with the same or close to the same issues. If your service is working that's great, but if you are like me and fighting to get anything to play please state your location and equipment used, and let us try and figure out what is going on.

If your service works great please put down your location and equipment used so we can rule some stuff out.

I truly wish someone from the backend checks this forum.

West coast of Canada same issues here

[canuck74]

Western Canada / Mag 254. Unwatchable

[Hank Venture]

Don't worry. After tonight we may have a workaround if Rocket doesn't do anything about it. Just set up a proxy to the east coast and take the bandwidth. Simple, and it will cause enough double data transfer to either get everyone noticed, or for them to fix the problem.

[fireman]

Geeess.... East coast... West coast..... I do this, I do that. I'm in up country Thailand on a 10/1 adsl line. Watched 2 hours of BBCA with one minor buffer a hour and a half in. You can't get any further any than I am. Get largely satisfactory performance.

[rovers95]

like i always said is NFPS servers problem the East coast have no buffering issues while the West coast does. I do to expect for things to get better but it sucks that for some paying costemers got the end of the stick.

[K00lKatT]

Don't blame the service for the internet infrastructure..thks..

[rovers95]

oh my god i keep hearing ...don't blame the service...come on we all know its not the ISP lets face it NFPS has some issues that still needs to be fix and that is that....time will tell.

[theuduk]

Well I am in mid country and get very little freeze except on the Discovery type channels around the 190 mark so some long standing issues remain and with the support nfps/188/rocket has done over the years would expect them to continue as such.
The expansion of the channels and user base has prolly impacted the service more for some than others and getting new hardware in place takes a lot of planning as future developments have to be considered, is not something that can be picked up at an electronics store shelf but likely custom built.
Must be lots of satisfied users as the number of complaints are limited to a few people so not many write in to say it is working well prolly never come on site.

Better days are coming wish I knew how or when.

[generica]

Hopefully so, like i have said before when it works it works but when it doesn't might as well go for a nice walk .....

[Hank Venture]

OK crappy service here we come again. Everything was working well until almost exactly 8:05 about 10 min ago. Was getting bursts of received up to 3.6 mbps. Now I am down to 100kbps on every channel that works.

This is completely madding.

I'm going to try and set up a proxy to the east coast and see if my bandwidth goes up.

Please for the love of loyal customers fix this crap.

[sat-junkie]

I switched server addresses and that fixed my buffering issues today...went from iptv66 to the NFPS address

[Hank Venture]

Proxy to the east coast worked, but it is little more than a Band-Aid for a bullet wound. The stream is much better, but when it does buffer it now takes 3 times as long to come back due to the double data transfer. Me to proxy, proxy to server, server to proxy, proxy back to me. All this is doing is eating up bandwidth from the source. If too many of us try this all its going to do is make the system unusable for everyone.

I went a head and turned the proxy off, and checked my connection to the server, and low and behold it still doesn't work. Only pulling 86kbps.

What's even worse is I can connect to Phoenix on the same channel and it works 100% better than my paid subscription. Only buffers from time to time.

15 out of 30 of my donations end in 15 days, and 10 more end 30 days later. Out of 25 people, 19-22 are not going to renew. They are all sick of fighting for bandwidth, and a service that doesn't work after 2 months of being "live"

Everyday they hear it's getting better, and it hasn't worked one day since it started. Last night was the final straw for most of them.

Terrible.

[raiderblue17]

Shit service. If you want a better service just get sportsmania

[Hank Venture]

Just an update. Speed has gotten even worse. Only 24kbps. Takes almost 2 min to load a channel, puts up an image, buffers for 90sec, displays one frame, buffers for 90sec, and another frame. Rinse and repeat.

Completely unwatchable. No channel plays.

Even worse is come 11pm or so tonight it will work just fine right at bed time.

[tuxen]

thats horrible! change isp.. everything is good here..

[tuxen]

oh my god i keep hearing ...don't blame the service...come on we all know its not the ISP lets face it NFPS has some issues that still needs to be fix and that is that....time will tell.
everybody should have problems if it was a server issue.. its logic. i've seen this a 100 times with just about every addon for kodi here ppl blame the addon.. come on use your common sense.. and while we are at it no there is no magic setting in advancedsettings that will make buffering go away.. coz im sure thats going to be the next silly question.

deja vu all over! ..rant off

edit: ps. im not mad, you are as entitled to your own opinion, as i am. i just hope we can keep it within one thread. as it is a endless discussion. ;)
also i'm not saying it is completely issue free. i have a "hole" in the stream from time to time, and i also miss a channel from time to time.

but far from anything that makes it anywhere near unwatchable.. and it runs pretty much 24/7.

[Marley]

yes this stuff is going on wont say no to that but they are work there azz off to get rid of this so please give it some time and yes i said that before my friend call me up last night and yup the ones he said freezes they sure did

[tuxen]

i have no problems with that. i am very satisfied so far.
just saying the guy above that gets 24KB/sec, sure is not a server issue. heh

[Hank Venture]

I have posted I tried all 3 isp's in the Vegas area. It is not the ISP. It is a location issue.

I am in the middle of a backend server trace, and so far it looks like the stream is coming off the Atlantic fiber optic system. So far as I can see it is coming across Europe and over the Atlantic ocean fiber optic system. With only one source and the majority of users/people on the east coast that means no bandwidth left for us west coasters until east coast logs off. After then works like a charm. Like around 11pm pacific time until about 7-7:30am.

As for advancedsettings.xml you could not be anymore correct. It is not even used with live tv streams. The live tv does not buffer at all, ever thru this setting. Hit the o button on a keyboard when live tv is playing vs anything else. See for yourself. Advancedsettings.xml is equipment and internet speed specific for streams like Genesis, or Navi. You can actually see the play bar fill up grey. It does not do this with live tv. Live TV is a totally different self-contained monster of it's own.

[garciarubz]

Cali.
$40 Fire stick Kodi 15.1
30mbp
No problems other then a few channels here and there nothing major. Very pleased.

[tuxen]

Hank: i'm sorry for not reading back properly. that sucks. :( i was not ranting to anyone particular.
i was just tired of hearing people blame the servers when they usually should blame the internet infrastructure or a cheap isp, without trying any troubleshooting because "they have 150Mbit" advertised as their bandwidth.
it certainly seems you done your legwork, and i hope it will come in handy for other users, so they know whats going on.

good luck mate

[Hank Venture]

Just checking back in. 7am and I am pulling down between 1,2 and 2,8Mbps. Lets see if this lasts past 8am.

[Hank Venture]

8:30 am and now can't pull anymore than 286kbps. 9am and its down to 66kbps. You could actually watch the bandwidth drop off over the last hour.

I was watching a stream with the Ethernet monitor on and watched as the stream fizzled out. Pathetic.
Is there anyway to get your money back? No, didn't think so.

They need to add at least 2 times the bandwidth and at least 2 more servers to handle the number of users.

Of course the IKS system is almost totally down.

They rolled this out 2 months ago knowing they did not have the bandwidth to offer anyone any real service, and continued to take peoples money knowing the system does not work. That's just bad business. They should have tested more, and waited, but no, they just want your money.

Its like buying a refrigerator and bringing it home only to find cinderblocks in the box. Total scam.

I have been a Rocket customer for well over 5 years, and I am totally getting the short end of the stick.

I am done with this crappy service with no support. I'm also done doing all there support and testing for them.

People say this is a hobby. It's more like an aneurism waiting to happen.

I just shut down my online store, and listed not to purchase anything from rocket, NPSF or I66 until they get there crap together. I also just emailed my current 30+ customers and told them to come here for support, and bash the service themselves until they either fix it or shut it down.

I am no longer going to be the test subject for these clowns. My personal rocket ends next month, and I am not going to renew. I cant believe something that has been around this long went down hill so fast.

I am done.

Peace out everyone, and thanks for your help. I would say it was fun, but it hasn't been.

[justlearning]

I am having problems finding a channel that isn't freezing over the last few days. This isn't my only source of entertainment, so I hope eventually this problem will be resolved.

Thanks

[sat-junkie]

Works great for me just payed for another 6 months! See ya Hank...It's been a hoot reading your posts and laughing at your theories on how us east coast people steal your bandwidth in Vegas lol lol lol

[bongskie]

Works great for me just payed for another 6 months! See ya Hank...It's been a hoot reading your posts and laughing at your theories on how us east coast people steal your bandwidth in Vegas lol lol lol

your post are no help, lets admit there is a problem, my speed is 3 mbps right now but no freezing. it is also impossible for a speed of at least 20 mbps to get buffering, i believe there is problem somewhere else.

[tuxen]

Hank: lol how can you blame the service for your isp being cheap?
these are not ppl using the server, its ppl login on aol, yahoo, facebook, youtube, twitter, tripper and all the other shit your isp's costumers use. and you are right.. it's probably the east cost. lol

You can't blame the service on how the internet works.. that is really to far out..
The numbers of countries where you can host a server and where the long crazy copyright law of usa can not reach is very limited.

its like blaming Microsoft for your internet bill because you are on capped sat and they send you security updates.

[tuxen]

your post are no help, lets admit there is a problem, my speed is 3 mbps right now but no freezing. it is also impossible for a speed of at least 20 mbps to get buffering, i believe there is problem somewhere else.
let's just say the server's are in the "wrong" location then. i do not doubt ppl. problem is this is just a endless discussion. :)

[floder2]

I think the Servers are in Belize .........Probably not a country that has top flight internet abilities or choices when setting up servers........................

[vidswaps]

According to what is showing on my Mag254 the servers are located in Belize.
If that is true this article will give you an idea about the Internet infrastructure,speed,and cost in Belize.
http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/98646
No wonder we on the West Coast can NOT see anything while the East Coast subs are using the service.

[raiderblue17]

Server is dog shit similar to sat junkies opinion... DOG SHIT.

100 MBPS direct connect gets turned to .56mbps.

Fuck this and the lying sacks of shit on here saying otherwise.

[floder2]

So in Belize you pay $350.00 (U.S. dollars) a month for 8mbps......and that's the highest speed you can get...........Well no wonder people are complaining.....i bet you that advertized 8mbps comes with a Bandwidth cap too.........what's ROCKET thinking.........................My Dream-TV App gives better service and thats FREE

I see that VIDSWAPS posted arlicle from 2014....did a search for 2015 update of Internet speeds in Belize....and found that a 16 Mbps plan was added ....Still thats way too slow Too run this kind of operation ...................................

[floder2]

Now this is what Rocket needs......................

Scientists in the UK have created the fastest ever real-world internet connection, using commercial-grade fibre optic lines to clock up speeds of 1.4 terabits per second.

It’s believed to be the fastest speed test of its kind, and would allow users to hypothetically download 44 high-definition films in a single second.

[floder2]

Here is some more info about Belize (Dated April 2015) When this project is ready..Well no one knows for sure...Just know it is not ready as of now.......................

With broadband service slow and unavailable in much of the country, Belize is gearing up to build its first Internet exchange point (IXP) in a bid to persuade more people to sign up for superior service.

According to the Trinidad Guardian, major telecom operators have reached an understanding to participate in the construction of the IXP, which eases the movement of data on the network and will thus reduce the average per-bit delivery cost of the service.

An Internet exchange point is a physical infrastructure through which Internet service providers (ISPs) exchange traffic between their networks.

IXPs avoid the need for data to travel to other countries to get from one network to another, thus reducing latency. Today, many ISPs in the region need to pass the data through networks in the United States before rerouting to their consumers in island nations.

The companies that signed the deal include Alliance IP, Belize Telemedia, BroadBand Belize, Centaur Communications Corporation, Network Solutions and Speednet.

The World Bank has already lent a huge sum of money to fund IXPs across the region, with the Caribbean Telecommunications Union(CTU) teaming up with U.S.-based consultancy firm Packet Clearing House (PCH) to advise regional governments on bolstering the telecom infrastructure.
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Over the past two years, dozens of IXPs have surfaced in several Caribbean countries including Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago, British Virgin Islands, Curacao, Dominica, Grenada, St Lucia and the Dominican Republic.

Analysts say the proliferation of IXPs could speed up the delivery of Internet-based services such as video conferencing, voice of IP, data backup and online gaming.

Although Belize is a relatively wealthy country, its telecoms service is poor by regional standards. According to telecom research firm Buddecomm, there is little or no demand for fixed-line service, with the majority of the population subscribing to mobile service. The mobile sector account for about 90% of all phone subscriptions in the country.

The soon-to-be established IXP will not only address the inefficiency of local Internet traffic exchange. It will also allow other important Internet infrastructure to be located in Belize, such as domain name root services and content delivery caches from major content networks like Google, Netflix , Yahoo and Rocket IPTV

[sat-junkie]

Server is dog shit similar to sat junkies opinion... DOG SHIT.

100 MBPS direct connect gets turned to .56mbps.

Fuck this and the lying sacks of shit on here saying otherwise.This service works amazing for me.. i don't give a rats ass what you think

[raiderblue17]

Watching gorilla streams with a more reliable connection than the SERVICE I PAY FOR

[Bkman2020]

Watch your mouth raiderblue17 or you will get a nice vacation ,read the rules.

[floder2]

I don't read rules...sorry...plus I did nothing wrong unless your very PC and or have no sense of humor ..................................

Or was it the "DOG S**t comment you were talking about

[Bkman2020]

I edited my post for user.

[floder2]

OK................................................ ........................

[tuxen]

This service works amazing for me.. i don't give a rats ass what you think

i second that, its been running 48 hours (fell asleep) on 5-6 channels now with no buffering, holes in the stream or whatever.

edit: never mind lol.. morning sickness

[tuxen]

Here is some old info about the infrastructure in the Caribbean/belize. from September 2013.
It seems they do have some things in place. Lets hope things gets better for more people now that the monopoly is broken back in april and the isp's got together and formed a IX. they been fighting over it for two years.


https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5138f2cae4b0f3422dd43abd/t/524e64ece4b0db2f799dd46a/1380869356291/Internet+Infrastructure+in+the+Caribbean.pdf

quote "Replaced satellite communications, Early systems at capacity or already retired, Newer systems support 100’s of Gbps and Tbps
• Adequate coverage for immediate demand
• 17 active fiber systems
• Aggregate capacity of 12.4 Tbps
"
also interesting "
Inefficient and expensive traffic routes:
• Caribbean ISPs pay exorbitant transit costs to US IXs
• Costs passed on to consumers
• Providers offer reduced services to keep costs down (this goes both ways just as the above)
• Low speeds and latency problems on local loops

Current transit model discriminates against development of regional content:
• Favors consumption of US content
• Some argue that there is limited interest in regional content
"

[tuxen]

a trace route from here is pretty short and fast so something must be in place already:


>tracert 11.iptvprivateserver.tv
Tracing route to 11.iptvprivateserver.tv [31.220.2.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1 my router
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms xx.xxx.xxx.xx- my providers ga
4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms as199636-amsix.koddos.com [80.249.210.68] - AMS-IX / host provider?
5 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 31.220.2.10 the server subnet

[raiderblue17]

oh nooo.. Heaven forbid i lose out on *raptacular "Service" such as this message board in conjunction with this PAID "IPTV"

How's that for concern.

SportsDevil puts these marks to shame...

[tuxen]

lol funny you should say so I heard exactly the same from a dusin sports devil users.. its buffering and what a crap service and why is it down, the addon is broken. etc etc.
it will always be like that for some no matter what addon or service. or wait maybe its a conspiracy lol (;

[tuxen]

oh nooo.. Heaven forbid i lose out on *raptacular "Service" such as this message board in conjunction with this PAID "IPTV"

How's that for concern.

SportsDevil puts these marks to shame...

if its not working for you imho its the right concern.. just forget it and be happy with what is working for you.. :)

[sat-junkie]

oh nooo.. Heaven forbid i lose out on *raptacular "Service" such as this message board in conjunction with this PAID "IPTV"

How's that for concern.

SportsDevil puts these marks to shame...you're just a whiny little cry baby b*thch....btw my service runs excellent

[raiderblue17]

when you PAY for something and get SHEET in return.. when EVERYBODY (except 2 marks) says its doesnt work... yeah its SHEET. Fix it or refund the people.

Ill take sports devil all day over this REPUG service.

SatJunkie... you can suckle on my taint..................... SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[tuxen]

you're just a whiny little cry baby b*thch....btw my service runs excellent
lol easy now. he is probably just a kid you might hurt his feelings and cripple him later in his life.. kids these days are wrapped in bubble plast and used to get what they point at.. ups did I say that out laud?

lol maybe its time to close this thread

[tuxen]

when you PAY for something and get SHEET in return.. when EVERYBODY (except 2 marks) says its doesnt work... yeah its SHEET. Fix it or refund the people.

Ill take sports devil all day over this REPUG service.

SatJunkie... you can suckle on my taint..................... SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

EVERYBODY?! lol I see around a dusin. you forget most ppl usually come here when they need help. there are 100's of other users that just use the forum as a guide. I did.. and everything worked fine.

I only joined later to have some fun, perhaps learn some more and help where I can because I have a lot of time on my hands atm.