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joe645
02-08-2017, 02:50 AM
I just experienced an internet suspension of my IP because of what they described as a complaint that I was downloading an unauthorized program. Actually, I was watching a VOD movie. Ever since the days of Football Cards, through Satellite Subscriptions and now IPTV, I have never had someone trace anything from my home. What changed? How did this happen? What can I do about it? Was it just that particular movie that I was watching? Do certain movies have trace elements embedded in them? Help please.

Marley
02-08-2017, 04:22 AM
sorry on that look someone downloaded a movie or you copy it i got letter from them long time ago because my son downloaded a movie if that was case all of us would have gotten a letter and some kodi repos are not safe when they tell you to watch out stay away from that app there are maybe 5 that i know of that are not safe on kodi too think we should put up something which tell all the bad ones avov had one app that was not safe to use and we posted something on that any app that goes to mirc or private site are not safe unless you can log into that site we told many use a vpn for all boxes or one for the router you are safe as long as you do keep on doing it got like 3 letter all were my kids download music or cam and i called and say sorry dumb kids and all was fine never say you did it was a minor that did it

joe645
02-08-2017, 04:27 AM
no you had download a movie or someone did not vod
Sorry Marley, don't understand your reply. I chose to watch a VOD movie just like I have done many, many times before and with no internet interruption. This particular movie was picked up somehow and information was sent to my IP. That is what I would like to know.... HOw?

wag123
02-08-2017, 01:49 PM
The content providers are becoming much more aggressive about pursuing content thieves and are setting traps. You likely fell into one of their traps when you watched that VOD and they logged your IP address on their server. They notified your ISP and you were suspended. The next step that content providers will likely be taking is to prosecute or sue content thieves.
You (and everyone else reading this) need to take steps to protect yourself and should strongly consider paying for a VPN service. The IP address that they logged would have lead them to a VPN server and not to you. Just be sure to choose a VPN service that does not log IP addresses (most of them don't).
I run the VPN service I have through my router so that everything in my house runs through the VPN tunnel to the Internet 24/7. You will need to purchase a higher-end router if you want to do this (one with a faster multi-core CPU and more memory).

SebsiBC
02-08-2017, 03:04 PM
I guess the question here is whether iptvprivateserver is hosting these vod files themselves or are they linking to other streaming content providers like how kodi addons do?

If they're hosting them themselves, this is potentially scary, because how would the copyright holders know who's streaming what?

If they're linking to other hosts, it's possible that the copyright holders themselves uploaded the content just for the purpose of logging ip's and badgering isps and end users like they did on file sharing services/torrents.

Joe, did your ISP specify exactly what movie you were watching that they're taking issue with? Most of the letters I've gotten after torrenting were very specific about what was downloaded, so just wondering.

Sandiver
02-08-2017, 03:35 PM
I just experienced an internet suspension of my IP because of what they described as a complaint that I was downloading an unauthorized program. Actually, I was watching a VOD movie. Ever since the days of Football Cards, through Satellite Subscriptions and now IPTV, I have never had someone trace anything from my home. What changed? How did this happen? What can I do about it? Was it just that particular movie that I was watching? Do certain movies have trace elements embedded in them? Help please.

following up on the previous post,

did you consider contacting them and asking what specifically was being downloaded that was unauthorized? tell them you have children and need to know to be able to prevent it happening.
the real reason you want to know is if they have information regarding what was being downloaded versus "something was being downloaded" not knowing specific might mean they are monitoring the source but not the content.

wag123
02-08-2017, 04:01 PM
I guess the question here is whether iptvprivateserver is hosting these vod files themselves or are they linking to other streaming content providers like how kodi addons do?
This is a VERY good question!

joe645
02-08-2017, 07:55 PM
This is a VERY good question!

I don't recall but I believe the IP agent's information quoted the exact name of the movie but they only could say that the download was through my network and not necessarily me personally. They suggested I change my Network Router password to ensure any future problems. wag123; you mentioned running a VPN service through your router. As I recall these VPN after you purchase, load a program on your computer and say you are now protected 6 ways to sundown. How does these work with my router and network to protect my AVOV boxes?

ilan
02-08-2017, 08:42 PM
He's talking about a VPN router. This is not a program you load on your computer, but rather a router with VPN capabilities. The router directs any (or all) internet traffic through the VPN you designate in the router's configuration.

joe645
02-08-2017, 09:05 PM
He's talking about a VPN router. This is not a program you load on your computer, but rather a router with VPN capabilities. The router directs any (or all) internet traffic through the VPN you designate in the router's configuration.
So are you saying that the ones loaded on a computer are not protecting every device that is connected to my network?

Sandiver
02-08-2017, 09:27 PM
simple solution don't use VOD. install the Exodus addon in Kodi any movie you can see on VOD you can see on Exodus, also if you missed an episode of a tv program you can watch those as well.

wag123
02-08-2017, 09:37 PM
So are you saying that the ones loaded on a computer are not protecting every device that is connected to my network?
Yes, and ilan is correct. If you use the VPN software on your computer it is only protecting THAT computer and nothing else on your network. Most VPN providers will allow 2 to 5 simultaneous VPN connections on their network, so you could use it on multiple devices without running it in a router, including many/most set top boxes.
If you are wanting to protect everything on your network simultaneously you will need to purchase a relatively high-end router in order to run the VPN from the router itself. The prices on these start at around $100 but if you shop around you might find one a little cheaper. I'm using an ASUS RT-AC56U router and it runs the VPN well, but it does slow down my Intenet connection by about 1/2, from 60mbps to about 30mbps (still plenty fast for my purposes), and my ISP (or anyone else) doesn't have ANY idea what is coming and going through my Internet connection or where I am going when I am on the Internet. All of my computers (4), STBs (3), and smart phones (3) are protected. IMHO using a VPN service in a router is the way to go.

joe645
02-08-2017, 10:35 PM
Yes, and ilan is correct. If you use the VPN software on your computer it is only protecting THAT computer and nothing else on your network. Most VPN providers will allow 2 to 5 simultaneous VPN connections on their network, so you could use it on multiple devices without running it in a router, including many/most set top boxes.
If you are wanting to protect everything on your network simultaneously you will need to purchase a relatively high-end router in order to run the VPN from the router itself. The prices on these start at around $100 but if you shop around you might find one a little cheaper. I'm using an ASUS RT-AC56U router and it runs the VPN well, but it does slow down my Intenet connection by about 1/2, from 60mbps to about 30mbps (still plenty fast for my purposes), and my ISP (or anyone else) doesn't have ANY idea what is coming and going through my Internet connection or where I am going when I am on the Internet. All of my computers (4), STBs (3), and smart phones (3) are protected. IMHO using a VPN service in a router is the way to go.

Would this VPN affect a Home Security System DVR and the ability to view remotely or WIFI thermostat, etc? I found a ASUS 56U (new open box) for $55. Hopefully cutting Internet speed by half won't be a problem. I need to keep my 8mbps upload for streaming purposes.

wag123
02-09-2017, 01:02 PM
I found a ASUS 56U (new open box) for $55.
This is an excellent price if it is an RT-AC56U. If it is an RT-N56U it is an average price and it is NOT suitable for running a whole house VPN.
In an RT-AC56U, if the current firmware doesn't yet support VPN out of the box (mine didn't when I purchased it), you will need to upgrade the router firmware with ASUSWRT-Merlin (ASUS approved) or DD-WRT 3rd party firmware if you want to run VPN software in it.


Would this VPN affect a Home Security System DVR and the ability to view remotely or WIFI thermostat, etc?
It will if the VPN tunnel goes down. It does this occasionally (on an irregular basis) and I have to refresh the connection in the router console on my computer when it happens. In addition to reducing your Internet connection speed, this is another downside to running the VPN from a router. DD-WRT has a built-in setting that will auto reconnect if the VPN tunnel fails, and you can also set it up to refresh the connection on a schedule, but, DD-WRT is a lot less user friendly, much more difficult to setup, and has more bugs than ASUSWRT-Merlin.
You could also run 2 routers simultaneously, the one you currently have for the the devices that you don't want/need to run a VPN, and the new one for your VPN connected devices.


I need to keep my 8mbps upload for streaming purposes.
The speeds you will achieve will be directly affected by the VPN provider you select, which one of their servers you are using, and which VPN encryption protocol you are using. I tried a number of different servers that my VPN provider has and tested their speed on speedtest.net until I found the fastest server. I found that the fastest servers were the ones that are the closest to where I live (DUH). I also tried all 3 of the available encryption protocols in my router and settled on PPTP for it's higher speed. PPTP is an adequate encryption level for my purposes (I'm not concerned with the NSA decrypting my home Internet connection and my ISP isn't going to bother with trying to decrypt it). If you want to use OpenVPN (the most secure encryption protocol) I recommend that you purchase a router with a more powerful CPU (like an ASUS RT-AC87U) if you want to maintain reasonably fast Internet speeds. Be warned, OpenVPN is not easy to setup.

sfipricej
02-10-2017, 02:43 PM
I'm using an ASUS RT-AC56U router and it runs the VPN well, but it does slow down my Intenet connection by about 1/2, from 60mbps to about 30mbps (still plenty fast for my purposes), and my ISP (or anyone else) doesn't have ANY idea what is coming and going through my Internet connection or where I am going when I am on the Internet. All of my computers (4), STBs (3), and smart phones (3) are protected. IMHO using a VPN service in a router is the way to go.


I use the RT-AC68 unit with advanced tomato firmware, using vpn and only route specific traffic through it. Mostly a single laptop via ethernet for torrents that's syncing to my WD Cloud drive (13TB), and one of my kodi boxes.. The others are streaming from the internet directly and use the cloud drive as a media server...

frostycold
02-11-2017, 08:11 PM
So are you saying that the ones loaded on a computer are not protecting every device that is connected to my network?

It would have to be loaded into your router for it to work on network.

Bkman2020
02-11-2017, 09:29 PM
Torrents are still active and are traps now be aware.

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