Too Much buffering at peak times - Very poor Service

[apun]

I have been using NFPS iks service for years and are very pleased with and then IPTV came out and I started using it. The IPTV service is not new anymore, but is still far from complete. Price goes up but service doesnt improve. At peak times and on Weekends, most of the channels are unwatchable. What is the point of having 1000 channels when you dont have the bandwidth to keep them running?

when ever there is a big sporting event the sport channel(s) is unwatchable (try fox sport 1 or 2 right now with Champion League games), 100's of channels are down (I have reported about 30 (Indian/Pakistani) channels my self more than once, but nothing is done for weeks to bring them back up and they are still down). I would understand when the service is new and they are catching up or figuring out the right bandwidth but this is not an excuse anymore.

I do not have problem paying the new price for the IPTV BUT only if the service works!

And yes a mod will comment, use the service and if you dont like it go sub for a higher monthly fee, which is unprofessional. Yes we are paying a lower fee than sub, but "paid" users we have the right to provide feed back whether that is negative or positive.

I am pretty sure many other users are frustrated like myself and would like the service improved.

Any word from NFPS to whether the buffering will ever be coped with at peak times ?
My Rant ends.

EDIT: I should add my internet is 25mbps, so its not my internet.

[Marley]

http://iptvtalk.net/showthread.php?10861-PPV-DOWN-we-are-under-maintenance and yes you do have a right to say what you think and even the guys who run the server want to stop all of this i get you i have bad freeze just like you today put i know they are working on it but that dont mean much when you cant watch tv

[apun]

http://iptvtalk.net/showthread.php?10861-PPV-DOWN-we-are-under-maintenance and yes you do have a right to say what you think and even the guys who run the server want to stop all of this i get you i have bad freeze just like you today put i know they are working on it but that dont mean much when you cant watch tv

PPV channels are not my worries here, I saw that post. For me its all the other channels, Premium channels (HBO, TNT...etc), sports and some international.

Hopefully they can fix all these issues before the customers stop purchasing the service. tnx

[K00lKatT]

speed is only one factor here, the quality of your service is just as important. There are plenty of threads to attest to this, thks...

[high247]

All good here. Loving my iptv!

[big dady]

For the past 2 weeks all the channels that i watch work fine so it may be the box you're using or some thing but if you read how many are saying running smooth lately so it's not only me

[Violator]

I agree that peak hours and weekends are unwatchable. I will not resub my service after watching the mods here shut down posts and ban people for stating their opinions. bad buffer is one thing , being treated poorly by staff is another.

[apun]

For the past 2 weeks all the channels that i watch work fine so it may be the box you're using or some thing but if you read how many are saying running smooth lately so it's not only me

I am using my pc with kodi, 8GB RAM, and it doesnt buffer at other times (I even have AdvancedSettings.xml in kodi to help the buddering). Not sure if you watch Sports channels when big games are playing (Try Fox Sports 2 right now, not as bad as yesterday but still buffering every minute).

Or do you watch HBO/TNT/ESPN/PPV Sports with big fights/events?. It only buffers when there is special live event and many people are watching. On weekends though its a different story mostly all channels buffer, including international.

[cobrazilla]

I have had my MAG254 for about 5 months now and I can count on one hand how many times it has worked without freezing.

Overall I think it has been a disappointment.

[ELEVO]

What boxes are you guys using? Just curious if there is a patern? Bad , Slow memory can be an issue? So what boxes are you guys using? What internet speeds do you have etc. This may help narrow it down some, As some have issues and others claim it's all smooth with little to no issues :o/

[dafatmack]

I have 3 boxes my 2 fire tv 4k boxes won't play certain channels all of sudden but my Nvidia Shield is running smoothly. All 3 are on 75 mbps internet

[Pers]

After new update , it seems some android boxes are affected , AVOV and MAG Boxes are OK

[jerry1]

yes every time I play a channel with mpeg2 it kicks me out of kodi back to the main menu on amazon fire tv 4k

[dafatmack]

Same here man

[dafatmack]

yes every time I play a channel with mpeg2 it kicks me out of kodi back to the main menu on amazon fire tv 4k

Same here smh frustrating

[scorsese]

People are being charged for very an inferior product at the moment. Limited HD, freezing, no PPV and compressed american SD channels . They should have made sure the system was working optimally before charging for this service. Just my opinion.

[Capt.Kangaroo]

People are being charged for very an inferior product at the moment. Limited HD, freezing, no PPV and compressed american SD channels . They should have made sure the system was working optimally before charging for this service. Just my opinion.
people shouldn't buy it then if they know these things.No one is forcing anyone to buy. Just my opinion
That being said, its working great for most people except for maintenance times.

[Marley]

yup same here very happy but i do have my days too

[tuxen]

fox sports plays well here.. been watching champions league too.. and other major events..
again its not the server getting overloaded.. its all the ppl using the same line as you also watching the event, and doing other stuff, as soon as you get to Amsterdam the overload will end they have plenty of bandwidth at the AIX. blame the isp, internet, your neighbors watching it in HD at another service, or whatever.

you are of cause entitled to your opinion, but the real solution is your decision because how do you expect nfps to react to this when it works for some and not for others. and what is the logical answer to overloading their bandwidth/server when it works here for example. how is that possible?

I bet they hear it everyday.. I have 100Mbit, my internet is fine. they stand in a dilemma answering that. it is nobodys internet, its a complicated animal that many companies try and sqeeze every penny out of every bit which result in bad routes at primetime, remember ppl are not just watching champions league on nfps/rocket/iks66 but on services that take up much more (of your) bandwidth too.

I agree with the audio encoding, that really needs to be fixed, but they are trying to give us a better resolution. I am sure they did not expect this changing the audio codec at the same time, and I really hope they will fix it too. coz it is a major showstopper.

[Marley]

get a very big server maybe wish i could tell you the answer

[scorsese]

Most of the channels are SD, no one wants SD these days.

[apun]

fox sports plays well here.. been watching champions league too.. and other major events..
again its not the server getting overloaded.. its all the ppl using the same line as you also watching the event, and doing other stuff, as soon as you get to Amsterdam the overload will end they have plenty of bandwidth at the AIX. blame the isp, internet, your neighbors watching it in HD at another service, or whatever.

you are of cause entitled to your opinion, but the real solution is your decision because how do you expect nfps to react to this when it works for some and not for others. and what is the logical answer to overloading their bandwidth/server when it works here for example. how is that possible?

I bet they hear it everyday.. I have 100Mbit, my internet is fine. they stand in a dilemma answering that. it is nobodys internet, its a complicated animal that many companies try and sqeeze every penny out of every bit which result in bad routes at primetime, remember ppl are not just watching champions league on nfps/rocket/iks66 but on services that take up much more (of your) bandwidth too.

I agree with the audio encoding, that really needs to be fixed, but they are trying to give us a better resolution. I am sure they did not expect this changing the audio codec at the same time, and I really hope they will fix it too. coz it is a major showstopper.

fair enough, I see some logic in this post BUT when lets say Fox Sports was freezing/Buffering, as soon as I hopped to a regular international or English channel, there was absolutely no Buffering then back to Fox and buffering returns ? Doesnt this mean its a channel related and not internet as other channels work buffer free, I had to watch the same stream on a free website with almost-HD quality and completely freeze free. Shouldnt that stream which was "better than SD" frozen more(or at least frozen same as nfps) if it was the 'internet overload" at that particular moment ?

Not trying to be a pain but more reasonable answers are always appreciated. thanks

So far the service is amazing, for the price and the variety of channels its offers and for normal use, I have only so far had problem with LIVE events on Fox Sports, HBO PPV, TNT etc where the channels would buffer a lot during big events.

[Sean5656]

Channels are all working now

[Flameangel]

fair enough, I see some logic in this post BUT when lets say Fox Sports was freezing/Buffering, as soon as I hopped to a regular international or English channel, there was absolutely no Buffering then back to Fox and buffering returns ? Doesnt this mean its a channel related and not internet as other channels work buffer free, I had to watch the same stream on a free website with almost-HD quality and completely freeze free. Shouldnt that stream which was "better than SD" frozen more(or at least frozen same as nfps) if it was the 'internet overload" at that particular moment ?

Not trying to be a pain but more reasonable answers are always appreciated. thanks

So far the service is amazing, for the price and the variety of channels its offers and for normal use, I have only so far had problem with LIVE events on Fox Sports, HBO PPV, TNT etc where the channels would buffer a lot during big events.In my opinion apun if you care to hear it is that you are damn lucky that you still enjoy the service where as for me ,I subscribed to NFPS in hopes of watching the Filipino channels freezing or what not as long as there are these channels.Buffering will always be apart of this service and I can blame poor service .I hope I am not hijacking this thread for I opened up my own thread regarding my request for Filipino channels and never mind regardless of BUFFERING as long as the channels are there.The mods have DELETED them all the time.BUFFERING OR POOR service and poor support.Next time I wouldn't mind paying 15 Cnd dollars which would amount to 180/year BUT with 4 Filipino channels....it's still cheaper than sub again I don't mind the BUFFERING as long as the SERVICE is GOOD and the SUPPORT is also GOOD.Maybe when my code expires then I'll switch to another private server.I'm sorry apun if I maybe hijacking your thread.

[Flameangel]

Bump,bump,bump

[tuxen]

fair enough, I see some logic in this post BUT when lets say Fox Sports was freezing/Buffering, as soon as I hopped to a regular international or English channel, there was absolutely no Buffering then back to Fox and buffering returns ? Doesnt this mean its a channel related and not internet as other channels work buffer free, I had to watch the same stream on a free website with almost-HD quality and completely freeze free. Shouldnt that stream which was "better than SD" frozen more(or at least frozen same as nfps) if it was the 'internet overload" at that particular moment ?

Not trying to be a pain but more reasonable answers are always appreciated. thanks

So far the service is amazing, for the price and the variety of channels its offers and for normal use, I have only so far had problem with LIVE events on Fox Sports, HBO PPV, TNT etc where the channels would buffer a lot during big events.

ok that is a bit weird, maybe the channels are external, some of them is.
I am not the biggest sports fan, but some of my friends are hence the champions league nights also watched HBO events, and I do watch some boxing events though, and other stuff mostly on the request of my friends who are computer illiterates.. could you try pm'ing me before hand when some big events are happening on these channels and we can compare directly? I am naturally curios, its in my blood heh. and I am not disregarding what you are experiencing at all.

the internet is very unpredictable, and some of what you see happens for me too the other way (to US, Canada, and Australia which has paticular bad infrastructure though).

an example of how unpredictable the internet is if I trace route to iks66.tv, rocket , or nfps.
I am (very lucky) and goes trough minimal of 5 hops (I wont post the hosts I go trough but you can always try pm)

my localnet, my public ip on my isp's net, the ix of my country, amsterdam ix, iks66.tv server. 1,2,3,4,5 very short - cant be shorter.
with a average ping time of 17ms!

if I trace route aftvnews.com I go through 7! hops of isp's in my country, before I reach US then 4! hops through US isp's, I then hit the aftvnews server.
with a average ping time of 115ms

in this case it completely disregards my direct connection to the IX, and takes another route, now this route could/should be faster depending on the other isp's so there is some reason behind it. but if the other isp's are cheap and allow for to many users or cap them at primetime it will be slow(er). and the same thing applies on the other side of the ocean. other US sites take other routes and directly to the ix, it differs.

I know this example does not mean much in praxis, but there are far worse scenarios for me too.
but it proves how inconsistent things can be, I happen to have faster connections to the rest of Europe and worse going overseas.
and nfps,rocket,iks66 even though located in belize, they do not use the caribbean IX (I dont think many do yet if you search the internet), instead they seem to have bought their hosting and connection at a company connected to the amsterdam IX that offers offshore hosting. I am of cause not completely sure of the details, but it looks that way.

but as said next time you there is a live event you expect to buffer feel free to pm me the channel no. and the event before its going on. as said I am curios at nature, things bite to me and I am a stubborn troubleshooter. :)

[apun]

ok that is a bit weird, maybe the channels are external, some of them is.
I am not the biggest sports fan, but some of my friends are hence the champions league nights also watched HBO events, and I do watch some boxing events though, and other stuff mostly on the request of my friends who are computer illiterates.. could you try pm'ing me before hand when some big events are happening on these channels and we can compare directly? I am naturally curios, its in my blood heh. and I am not disregarding what you are experiencing at all.

the internet is very unpredictable, and some of what you see happens for me too the other way (to US, Canada, and Australia which has paticular bad infrastructure though).

an example of how unpredictable the internet is if I trace route to iks66.tv, rocket , or nfps.
I am (very lucky) and goes trough minimal of 5 hops (I wont post the hosts I go trough but you can always try pm)

my localnet, my public ip on my isp's net, the ix of my country, amsterdam ix, iks66.tv server. 1,2,3,4,5 very short - cant be shorter.
with a average ping time of 17ms!

if I trace route aftvnews.com I go through 7! hops of isp's in my country, before I reach US then 4! hops through US isp's, I then hit the aftvnews server.
with a average ping time of 115ms

in this case it completely disregards my direct connection to the IX, and takes another route, now this route could/should be faster depending on the other isp's so there is some reason behind it. but if the other isp's are cheap and allow for to many users or cap them at primetime it will be slow(er). and the same thing applies on the other side of the ocean. other US sites take other routes and directly to the ix, it differs.

I know this example does not mean much in praxis, but there are far worse scenarios for me too.
but it proves how inconsistent things can be, I happen to have faster connections to the rest of Europe and worse going overseas.
and nfps,rocket,iks66 even though located in belize, they do not use the caribbean IX (I dont think many do yet if you search the internet), instead they seem to have bought their hosting and connection at a company connected to the amsterdam IX that offers offshore hosting. I am of cause not completely sure of the details, but it looks that way.

but as said next time you there is a live event you expect to buffer feel free to pm me the channel no. and the event before its going on. as said I am curios at nature, things bite to me and I am a stubborn troubleshooter. :)

perfect, I also want to compare with others to see if it really is just me lol

So today is sat Nov 28th, since you watch boxing: [300] HBO will be showing Klitschko's fight at 5 Pm EST. Lets try to watch that and compare. and i will pm you in the future when there is big event. thanks

[Hank Venture]

Bad buffering today. All channels tested. English and American.

West coast USA.

[apun]

tuxen are you watching HBO ? Couple rounds into the the fight and it is already buffering every minute for about 5-6 seconds which is not as bad as what I had on Fox Sports couple days ago.

Anyone else can confirm HBO buffering? By actually watching the channel for 5,10 mins, not just couple minutes. As I am typing this, the buffering has increased and is more frequent.

[apun]

419 Also showing the event, and also buffering, confirmed in another post by another user also!

Current speed test for me= 39mbps !

[mmigz1]

I have experienced the same issues that apun outlines. What NFPS needs to understand is that many subscribers get this service because of the live events that it offers. Movies and such can be gotten a hold of for free and in great quality from programs like Genesis. It is of utmost importance for this service to provide good quality live events without any buffering. Doing so will keep many if not all subscribers happy. Keep the sports and ppv events channels on HD AND 0 buffering and you will solve your complaints almost entirely.

[pedrer]

hello

Since any days ago i hsee very much frezze or buffering in my channels, i have two paid services (boxes AVOV VIXo 2), and only see Spanish channels, iam in spain and i have 300 Mbps Fiber Optic Internet

Thanks

pedrer

[tuxen]

damn I missed it, I really wanted to see that fight actually. I was at family.
but what I can say is that the whole service (most if not all channels) started buffering for me yesterday very early morning here and in the afternoon, coming home today it was still freezing every now and then, I just ate and it was going on while I cooked and ate, it stopped 20-30 mins ago but I dont know if they are done fiddeling with the server to early to say. :/

you probably think i'm bs'ing.. believe me or not that is what I saw before I left and when I got home.. you can see the post I made when it started buffering, or it was more like it freezes for a short second it never comes to buffering sometimes cutting holes in the video stream, things like this makes it unwatchable for me :( : http://iptvtalk.net/showthread.php?11019-just-started-to-get-bad-freeze

obviously I can not say if this has been going on all the time since yesterday and up until 20-30 mins ago. what I can say also is that has happened before, its a weird kinda buffering like they are working on the trans/encoding server opening files and tools and saving things, or what ever they are doing.

please apun, i'm very sorry can we try again in the future please, I really want to see if i'm am affected too..
it would also make good or final argumentation if it does (prove your theory; for good).

[goonie]

Seems to be running great on Kodi now. All fixed.

[tuxen]

yeah it's been a while and it seems to be ok now.. I wonder if it has been going on since yesterday morning.
oh well I couldn't really have been annoyed if it did since I was not home anyway.

[tuxen]

the fight is re-runned as I turned on the tv this morning.. wahey.. I was looking for live events.

I know one ufc fight that is coming up but its first the 12th.

edit: Theres always champions league but I dont know if the coming games will draw many viewers, as said I didn't have trouble watching this with friends but i'll try remember to tune in the following days.

[the2deez]

big dady please tell what system you are useing as the mag 254 has problems and i would be prudent for every one on this site to know whats best
will look forward to your reply to myself or elevo

[jrp82]

Apparently all channels are back in mp3 sound. But still buffering, but less, every 10 seconds for me. But all are in 480 now. I m sure AMC and others were in 576 or higher before.... The logos aren't as clearer than before....

[jv0099]

As of last night on AMC and a few other channels the bufferrin was Horrible. I disabled all three codecs and it still was bad, reboot cleared cache etc and still horrible bufferrin....I wonder if upgrading to 16.0 beta versions will help?????
AMC was so slow my kodi 15.2 was in slow motion moving the mouse around lmao.

Please fix and put back to mp3.

[KayKay]

I am willing to help see how this affects different people with different setups, internet speeds, if cleared cache, kodi version etc. I'm on the East coast USA GMT -5. Let me know what channel to watch. We should do this at peak times and weekends and see what we all get

[asesinopr]

I made the test with this buffering thing, and yes, the codecs have a lot of influence with, but just with live tv. For any other use, its better to turn it on... kodi 15.2
Android box 2gb ram quadcore
Isp with more than 20 excuses to explain why they can't give me my 20 mb.........

[floder2]

Over the past two years, dozens of IXPs have surfaced in several Caribbean countries including Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago, British Virgin Islands, Curacao, Dominica, Grenada, St Lucia and the Dominican Republic................But not yet in Belize




ok that is a bit weird, maybe the channels are external, some of them is.
I am not the biggest sports fan, but some of my friends are hence the champions league nights also watched HBO events, and I do watch some boxing events though, and other stuff mostly on the request of my friends who are computer illiterates.. could you try pm'ing me before hand when some big events are happening on these channels and we can compare directly? I am naturally curios, its in my blood heh. and I am not disregarding what you are experiencing at all.

the internet is very unpredictable, and some of what you see happens for me too the other way (to US, Canada, and Australia which has paticular bad infrastructure though).

an example of how unpredictable the internet is if I trace route to iks66.tv, rocket , or nfps.
I am (very lucky) and goes trough minimal of 5 hops (I wont post the hosts I go trough but you can always try pm)

my localnet, my public ip on my isp's net, the ix of my country, amsterdam ix, iks66.tv server. 1,2,3,4,5 very short - cant be shorter.
with a average ping time of 17ms!

if I trace route aftvnews.com I go through 7! hops of isp's in my country, before I reach US then 4! hops through US isp's, I then hit the aftvnews server.
with a average ping time of 115ms

in this case it completely disregards my direct connection to the IX, and takes another route, now this route could/should be faster depending on the other isp's so there is some reason behind it. but if the other isp's are cheap and allow for to many users or cap them at primetime it will be slow(er). and the same thing applies on the other side of the ocean. other US sites take other routes and directly to the ix, it differs.

I know this example does not mean much in praxis, but there are far worse scenarios for me too.
but it proves how inconsistent things can be, I happen to have faster connections to the rest of Europe and worse going overseas.
and nfps,rocket,iks66 even though located in belize, they do not use the caribbean IX (I dont think many do yet if you search the internet), instead they seem to have bought their hosting and connection at a company connected to the amsterdam IX that offers offshore hosting. I am of cause not completely sure of the details, but it looks that way.

but as said next time you there is a live event you expect to buffer feel free to pm me the channel no. and the event before its going on. as said I am curios at nature, things bite to me and I am a stubborn troubleshooter. :)

[apun]

Buffering is a fact for live popular events whether the admins want to believe or not, many users have reported, both of the channels showing last saturdays fight were unwatchable as the fight progressed (confirmed by myself and few other on this website).

If more people are into testing, let us all test this in the upcoming live events, some on my list are more champions league matches shown on:
------------
Dec 8 and Dec 9
150 Fox Sports 1 and 151 Fox Sports 2
2:45 PM EST
------------
Dec 12
UFC 194
417 BT Sports 2 (Possibly) & 455 PPV (hopefully)
10 PM EST
-----------

Lets watch these and determine the buffering, as the event progresses the buffering increases and gets to a point where the channel is not watchable.

[floder2]

Buffering is a fact for live popular events whether the admins want to believe or not, many users have reported, both of the channels showing last saturdays fight were unwatchable as the fight progressed (confirmed by myself and few other on this website).

If more people are into testing, let us all test this in the upcoming live events, some on my list are more champions league matches shown on:
------------
Dec 8 and Dec 9
150 Fox Sports 1 and 151 Fox Sports 2
2:45 PM EST
------------
Dec 12
UFC 194
417 BT Sports 2 (Possibly) & 455 PPV (hopefully)
10 PM EST
-----------

Lets watch these and determine the buffering, as the event progresses the buffering increases and gets to a point where the channel is not watchable.


Now I did see the Cotto vs Canelo fight with no interruption and with good picture on channel 409 (Box Nation)

[tuxen]

Buffering is a fact for live popular events whether the admins want to believe or not, many users have reported, both of the channels showing last saturdays fight were unwatchable as the fight progressed (confirmed by myself and few other on this website).

If more people are into testing, let us all test this in the upcoming live events, some on my list are more champions league matches shown on:
------------
Dec 8 and Dec 9
150 Fox Sports 1 and 151 Fox Sports 2
2:45 PM EST
------------
Dec 12
UFC 194
417 BT Sports 2 (Possibly) & 455 PPV (hopefully)
10 PM EST
-----------

Lets watch these and determine the buffering, as the event progresses the buffering increases and gets to a point where the channel is not watchable.

i'm not a admin. it has not been a fact for me.
I am interested in this because I myself never experienced it, so I really want to see if I can get it to happen to me, and I am then prepared to call it factual too.. I am 100% honest, sincere, and non biased, keeping word means a lot to me. I really hope that you believe that. i'm prepared to shot my tv screen with my camera if it is needed. :)
I wrote these events down apun, looking up the dates I have no appointments.
thanks.

[unheeding]

The Cotto vs Canelo fight ran flawlessly on BoxNation for me, but the PPV was indeed unwatchable (60mbps internet). I've had some minor buffering issues with other boxing fights, like a few seconds here and there, nothing too serious but can get annoying depending on the moment of the fight... The only live sport I watch is boxing so I can't speak on other live events, but the only other time I get constant lag is on Comedy Central, when a new South Park is airing on Wednesday nights. Not a big deal, but so far this new season I had to watch most of the episodes on Genesis after they aired on TV. No complaints from me though, I know this is a constant work in progress and I just wanted to share my experience in regard to buffering.

[pod77]

As I have basic TV with my internet and have Kodi as well I can say that I rarely have any issues unless the system is being worked on. I use an old gaming laptop and Kodi and for what we pay a year how can you possibly not be happy with the line up and cost? As multiple mods and members have stated this should not be your only source of TV... If you are only planning on using this as your source for TV then of course you are not going to be happy! A major cable TV provider is testing iptv in a major city and guess what.... Customers are having issues with buffering/skipping... So if a major cable provider is having issues and they have a lot more money/resources than this provider how can anyone possibly think there will not be growing pains? If you are a reseller thinking this is a get rich quick product than you should have done some reading/ research before getting into this!! You will be getting complaints just like the big cable providers do... I live in a small town with a great internet provider so maybe that has something to do with it as I rarely have any issues! This service works great for what I paid period!

[Sleekyboy24]

Cotto vs Alvarez fight on my end using m8 kodi stalker client. 409(boxnation) ran flawlessly. 455 - unwatchable. 455 was using hbo on the first few rounds then they start using boxnation stream on 455.

[monuoha]

The Tyson Fury vs Klitshcko fight was completely unwatchable for me on HBO East. Buffered every 3-5 seconds. Ended up having to watch with sports devil. Quite sad considering i made 2 donations

[cobrazilla]

people shouldn't buy it then if they know these things.No one is forcing anyone to buy. Just my opinion
That being said, its working great for most people except for maintenance times.

Sure wish I knew before I bit into the hype.

[floder2]

The Tyson Fury vs Klitshcko fight was completely unwatchable for me on HBO East. Buffered every 3-5 seconds. Ended up having to watch with sports devil. Quite sad considering i made 2 donations

Its was the same on Rocket IKS channel 300

[pod77]

Sure wish I knew before I bit into the hype.

Do you research things and read up on things before you buy anything?? If you did you would have known that yes there are some issues... Just like when you buy anything in life doing a bit of reading might have just help you out. Again as stated:
As multiple mods and members have stated this should not be your only source of TV... If you are only planning on using this as your source for TV then of course you are not going to be happy! A major cable TV provider is testing iptv in a major city and guess what.... Customers are having issues with buffering/skipping... So if a major cable provider is having issues and they have a lot more money/resources than this provider how can anyone possibly think there will not be growing pains? If you are a reseller thinking this is a get rich quick product than you should have done some reading/ research before getting into this!! You will be getting complaints just like the big cable providers do... I live in a small town with a great internet provider so maybe that has something to do with it as I rarely have any issues! This service works great for what I paid period!

[dafatmack]

Do you research things and read up on things before you buy anything?? If you did you would have known that yes there are some issues... Just like when you buy anything in life doing a bit of reading might have just help you out. Again as stated:
As multiple mods and members have stated this should not be your only source of TV... If you are only planning on using this as your source for TV then of course you are not going to be happy! A major cable TV provider is testing iptv in a major city and guess what.... Customers are having issues with buffering/skipping... So if a major cable provider is having issues and they have a lot more money/resources than this provider how can anyone possibly think there will not be growing pains? If you are a reseller thinking this is a get rich quick product than you should have done some reading/ research before getting into this!! You will be getting complaints just like the big cable providers do... I live in a small town with a great internet provider so maybe that has something to do with it as I rarely have any issues! This service works great for what I paid period!

Same here, I have issues every now and then but 85% of the time it runs smoothly. When I first started using this service I was using fire sticks on 15 mbps internet but the amount of ram on the sticks I felt wasn't enough to support the stalker client because of all the random force closing I was getting. So I switched to the Fire tv 4k box which had 2 GB of ram and I got far less issues on the box than I was on the sticks but I was still having some buffering on the 4k box not as much as I was on the sticks though. I upgraded my internet speeds to 75 mbps and the buffering was reduced dramatically. So I replaced all 3 of the fire sticks with 4k boxes been smooth ever since. This service is well worth the $105 IMO especially with the new addition of Sunday Ticket and NBA League Pass.

[Flameangel]

Same here, I have issues every now and then but 85% of the time it runs smoothly. When I first started using this service I was using fire sticks on 15 mbps internet but the amount of ram on the sticks I felt wasn't enough to support the stalker client because of all the random force closing I was getting. So I switched to the Fire tv 4k box which had 2 GB of ram and I got far less issues on the box than I was on the sticks but I was still having some buffering on the 4k box not as much as I was on the sticks though. I upgraded my internet speeds to 75 mbps and the buffering was reduced dramatically. So I replaced all 3 of the fire sticks with 4k boxes been smooth ever since. This service is well worth the $105 IMO especially with the new addition of Sunday Ticket and NBA League Pass.To each his own I suppose.

[jv0099]

Same issue now for the last week since purchasing this product last week... AMC and few other movie USA channels buffers like crazy. I have done the temp fix with disabled the codecs and leave one turned on.

I have not tested all the channels but its still having issues. Do you guys recommend a better fix? Is this being investigated? M8S Android IPTV Stalker Video add-on 50 MB Bell.

[rajarani]

Same issue now for the last week since purchasing this product last week... AMC and few other movie USA channels buffers like crazy. I have done the temp fix with disabled the codecs and leave one turned on.

I have not tested all the channels but its still having issues. Do you guys recommend a better fix? Is this being investigated? M8S Android IPTV Stalker Video add-on 50 MB Bell.

part of your problem is M8S, I have the same M8S box (kodi) and LIVA X (windows 10/kodi) sitting next to each other.
M8S buffers like hell on every 720 channel, LIVA X works great with no buffering at all. I can switch between them to test.

I have tried both the 2.4 GHz and 5GHz wifi bands, LIVA X has only 2.4 GHz band

having said that, M8S streams Vivo and youtube fine. fact is the VIVO channels streams have the same codec as stalker but are better quality 3mb+ streams and there is no buffering with them.
I watch PBS news hour on it very night and have seen no buffering in it either. All of this is inside kodi. Makes me belief the stalker client and kodi on M8S to be
the issue. have tried different stalker clients.
Don't have other android boxes to comment on them

[Lowteck]

part of your problem is M8S, I have the same M8S box (kodi) and LIVA X (windows 10/kodi) sitting next to each other.
M8S buffers like hell on every 720 channel, LIVA X works great with no buffering at all. I can switch between them to test.

I have tried both the 2.4 GHz and 5GHz wifi bands, LIVA X has only 2.4 GHz band

having said that, M8S streams Vivo and youtube fine. fact is the VIVO channels streams have the same codec as stalker but are better quality 3mb+ streams and there is no buffering with them.
I watch PBS news hour on it very night and have seen no buffering in it either. All of this is inside kodi. Makes me belief the stalker client and kodi on M8S to be
the issue. have tried different stalker clients.
Don't have other android boxes to comment on them

I also have a M8S and I do not experience nearly as much buffering or freezing as I did with the AVOV products. In fact I show very little buffering in the movie services. One more thing I did to stop my buffering was to get rid of a netgear router and go with a tplink. That alone reduced my buffering close to 100%. One more thing, I have not had to reset the tp. On the Netgear I had to do that a couple of time a week to reduce buffering. So do not blame your buffering on your box.

[jv0099]

Well Mine is the newest M8S TV Box Amlogic S812 Quad Core CPU Amlogic S812 Quad Core 2GHz (Cortex-A9) and mine usually is great on other channels. I setup the EPG for Stalker Client and noticed crazy buffering.
I removed tat and installed the Stalker Add-on and noticed slight difference, but AMC channel seems to be the worse causing me to re-watch Walking Dead somewhere else :). I'm not using my box wireless, but wired directly to ethernet. Wireless is turned off.

Should I tried something else other then disable codec? Other stalker client???? I had stalker-exo that was given to me and I had no issues using any of these channels.

[jv0099]

Well Mine is the newest M8S TV Box Amlogic S812 Quad Core CPU Amlogic S812 Quad Core 2GHz (Cortex-A9) and mine usually is great on other channels. I setup the EPG for Stalker Client and noticed crazy buffering.
I removed tat and installed the Stalker Add-on and noticed slight difference, but AMC channel seems to be the worse causing me to re-watch Walking Dead somewhere else :). I'm not using my box wireless, but wired directly to ethernet. Wireless is turned off.

Should I tried something else other then disable codec? Other stalker client???? I had stalker-exo that was given to me and I had no issues using any of these channels.

[jrp82]

I begin to be upset about the situation.
Sky was still working. Last night it began to buffers too on some sky channels.... it's really the end....
Ok for having an other way to watch TV like some says here... but i have not. Only some add ons (with AMC and others premium channels working perfectly in 576p) but i don't like to use them.

If i pay for something, it's for using it, i think it's normal to have something back for my money. Not always saying "problems can occurs sometime". It can happens of course, but not 2 weeks long ! (and it's not finished yet...)

The worst thing is to not have any announcement about the thing, the work in progress...

I would like to know if they think about adding days on our donations for all the days we already lost...

[dale-63]

Do you research things and read up on things before you buy anything?? If you did you would have known that yes there are some issues... Just like when you buy anything in life doing a bit of reading might have just help you out. Again as stated:
As multiple mods and members have stated this should not be your only source of TV... If you are only planning on using this as your source for TV then of course you are not going to be happy! A major cable TV provider is testing iptv in a major city and guess what.... Customers are having issues with buffering/skipping... So if a major cable provider is having issues and they have a lot more money/resources than this provider how can anyone possibly think there will not be growing pains? If you are a reseller thinking this is a get rich quick product than you should have done some reading/ research before getting into this!! You will be getting complaints just like the big cable providers do... I live in a small town with a great internet provider so maybe that has something to do with it as I rarely have any issues! This service works great for what I paid period! leave it up to I to, chime in with no answer to the problem is it getting better some what will it get better I hope

[pod77]

I begin to be upset about the situation.
Sky was still working. Last night it began to buffers too on some sky channels.... it's really the end....
Ok for having an other way to watch TV like some says here... but i have not. Only some add ons (with AMC and others premium channels working perfectly in 576p) but i don't like to use them.

If i pay for something, it's for using it, i think it's normal to have something back for my money. Not always saying "problems can occurs sometime". It can happens of course, but not 2 weeks long ! (and it's not finished yet...)

The worst thing is to not have any announcement about the thing, the work in progress...

I would like to know if they think about adding days on our donations for all the days we already lost...
You are paying about 29 cents a day so step back and think long and hard what you can get for that type of money... As with anything you should always have a backup option as many people have said this should not be your only source of TV... If anyone thinks that they can "cut the cord" for $105 a year for something that would be well over that a month then you are not thinking with your head.... Again for 29 cents a day the service is great and if they are working on the system and there is freezing then you can go to your backup plan! As I said there is a major cable provider test iptv in a major city and with all the money and resources they have they have freezing issues, if you can't live with it then this type of service isn't for you

[unheeding]

LMAO I swear some of ya'll talk like this is DN customer service... Hell, even if it was I wouldn't address them like that. This is supposed to be a community, you should express your concerns as FEEDBACK, not rants and rude complaints. The way you say things makes all the difference (in life period, it has nothing to do with this specifically!!). AFAIK this is a new-ish technology, just be glad you're a part of it and watch it progress with time; or if you can't handle an unstable service come back in a few years when it is. And lol @ all this nonsense about "having your money's worth", I laugh at you if you haven't already. I mean, just watching a few PPVs can be worth $80 ffs.

AND how much TV can ya'll watch in a day anyway??? Like I swear I saw this one guy saying on another thread that his thanksgiving was ruined because of this ROFLMAO. Get a grip.

TL;DR: Incite them to improve the service instead of giving them every reason not to

[jrp82]

to pod77

I'm not in USA, it's the only way for me to have USA channels. So.... i got no choice.

And it's not a matter of price.

And because it's 29 cents a day, we should accept it don't work ? And we have to say "ok no prob..." ?

I took the service 2 weeks ago. Was perfectly working, impressive. I imagine the lot of work the team do. But boom, two days after, buffering and the actual problems...

I'm ok for problems, but not so long. But if u're ok with that it's impressive.

I don't care paying for that. I just want the thing work for good. Yesterday the UK channels were still working. Today, no.

Ah yes, only israel, spain, and some channels we don't care about are working...

[Capt.Kangaroo]

LMAO I swear some of ya'll talk like this is DN customer service... Hell, even if it was I wouldn't address them like that. This is supposed to be a community, you should express your concerns as FEEDBACK, not rants and rude complaints. The way you say things makes all the difference (in life period, it has nothing to do with this specifically!!). AFAIK this is a new-ish technology, just be glad you're a part of it and watch it progress with time; or if you can't handle an unstable service come back in a few years when it is. And lol @ all this nonsense about "having your money's worth", I laugh at you if you haven't already. I mean, just watching a few PPVs can be worth $80 ffs.

AND how much TV can ya'll watch in a day anyway??? Like I swear I saw this one guy saying on another thread that his thanksgiving was ruined because of this ROFLMAO. Get a grip.

TL;DR: Incite them to improve the service instead of giving them every reason not to
Well said bro.
Thanks...:)

[Bobpopovich]

Question regarding channel 835 telemundo and 836 telemundo internacional

What is the problem with the telemundo USA 835 and telemundo internacional 836 that we're functioning in the beginning of the service?
I bought the service basically for watching telemundo USA channel 835 and now it never works.
Could you please get it up and running again.

Thanks.

[pod77]

to pod77

I'm not in USA, it's the only way for me to have USA channels. So.... i got no choice.

And it's not a matter of price.

And because it's 29 cents a day, we should accept it don't work ? And we have to say "ok no prob..." ?

I took the service 2 weeks ago. Was perfectly working, impressive. I imagine the lot of work the team do. But boom, two days after, buffering and the actual problems...

I'm ok for problems, but not so long. But if u're ok with that it's impressive.

I don't care paying for that. I just want the thing work for good. Yesterday the UK channels were still working. Today, no.

Ah yes, only israel, spain, and some channels we don't care about are working...

There are services out there and you can get USA channel's but guess what it's up over $200 a month... This is $105 a year! If you want a consistant service with no down time then this isn't for you. Pay the $200 plus a month and you will get the channels you want worry free! For the cost of this service it works great if you have a backup plan as many have pointed out over and over and over again.... The system isn't perfect so it's either deal with it or just be ticked off when you want to watch something. Just like with anything in life your going to purchase doing just a little research goes a really long way! If people would just read these forums before purchasing maybe just maybe they wouldn't be complaining as there are a number of threads stating the issues and that they should not really on this as your only source period!

@ unheeding very well said! People this isn't a cable or satellite company here... Do you see any 800 service number to call?

[jrp82]

yes u're right.

But really :(

it was working great and now nothing since their changes.

[unheeding]

@Captainkangaroo Salute. I mean, as long as there's still time to save Christmas!! ;)

[Capt.Kangaroo]

@Captainkangaroo Salute. I mean, as long as there's still time to save Christmas!! ;)
Lol, theres always time. Good job buddy...:)

[Blade Runner]

look, they have had a year working on this thing

while no one really can expect perfection, I KNOW from personal experience some iptv services in Europe run like swiss watches

so that begs the question......either they cant or wont fix the problem.....

in other words....either they are in over their heads or they don't want to spend the money to do it right ???

[pod77]

look, they have had a year working on this thing

while no one really can expect perfection, I KNOW from personal experience some iptv services in Europe run like swiss watches

so that begs the question......either they cant or wont fix the problem.....
in other words....either they are in over their heads or they don't want to spend the money to do it right ???

Or it's a work in progress... If you know about another service that works like a "Swiss watch" why are you even bothering with this service?? Hmm

[Blade Runner]

work in progress LOL....did you not read its been a year since they started ?? !! and they were working on it a few months before that
how long do they need to get it right ?
why does it work great some days and others real bad ??

this is fixable.....either they don't have the know how or they don't want to spend the cash to get it done

that's the way I see it

having said that...I have confidence they can make the service as good as any....they just need to make that commitment and that takes money

[K00lKatT]

well, I'm sure denigrating the service will get it done much faster...thanks so much for your thoughtful post..

[unheeding]

kinda like dope fiends complaining because their product is only 60% raw... GET AN Rx my brother or wait for the re-up LOL

[pod77]

work in progress LOL....did you not read its been a year since they started ?? !! and they were working on it a few months before that
how long do they need to get it right ?
why does it work great some days and others real bad ??

this is fixable.....either they don't have the know how or they don't want to spend the cash to get it done

that's the way I see it

having said that...I have confidence they can make the service as good as any....they just need to make that commitment and that takes money

I suggest you read up on iptv in general... A major cable provider is in the testing phase of there own iptv service and guess what???? They have freezing/buffering issues..... So with that said they have more money and resources than NFPS and they are having issues! So really step back and think about it for just a little bit, at 29 cents a day this service is s good deal hands down! Please do tell what you can get for 29 cents a day for entertainment??? Ya it's not perfect but for the cost of a real sub this is one hell of a good deal. Or you could just stick with your "Swiss Watch" service.....

@ unheeding that is priceless 😂

[Blade Runner]

well, I'm sure denigrating the service will get it done much faster...thanks so much for your thoughtful post..

oh I see...we should all say how great the service is.....then that will motivate them to make it that much better ??

Im not denigrating the service...just making an observation

this situation is either fixable or its not.... correct ??

you either throw a lot of money and get it done fast or you take your time spend less getting it fixed

[pod77]

oh I see...we should all say how great the service is.....then that will motivate them to make it that much better ??

Im not denigrating the service...just making an observation

this situation is either fixable or its not.... correct ??

you either throw a lot of money and get it done fast or you take your time spend less getting it fixed

Or if you can't handle how they are approaching it then don't renew and get a sub at $100-$200 a month! Then you will be happy and won't have to complain! Also they have a 800# so you can complain!

[crazed 9.6]

you guys need any tunes in here ?

Just asking:rolleyes:

[Blade Runner]

not complaining ..been a customer for years
just observation......seems like that's to much for some to handle

[crazed 9.6]

No worries Blade Runner :)
I know you been with us a long time.

Things get heated when things aren't working as best as they can be.
It's understandable.

[Blade Runner]

bang on Crazed !!
im glad to see some of us can speak the same language....lol

[tuxen]

hey, hey.. lets not get this thread closed before apun, I, and other more relaxed people can do some comparison's.. lol
or worse.. lol crazed will start playing tunes.

[crazed 9.6]

hey, hey.. lets not get this thread closed before apun, I, and other more relaxed people can do some comparison's.. lol

I am the most volatile member on the boards :eek:

And BTW, I do apologize for that :rolleyes:

[Bkman2020]

The holidays makes us cranky at times lol.

[Badbrowne]

The service is ok but after they get over this buffering @ peak times it would be so much better only time will tell

[apun]

hey, hey.. lets not get this thread closed before apun, I, and other more relaxed people can do some comparison's.. lol
or worse.. lol crazed will start playing tunes.

tuxen, its the weekend so, please try watching Fox Sports channels 150, 151 right now, too much buffering currently, internationals are also buffering this morning just to list few 1142, 1143.

If others want to tune to these channels and report the amount of buffering (like how often and for how long), that would be great too so we can all compare. currently fox channels are unwatchable.

Edit - I should add that for me 150 is buffering every 30 seconds for about 5-10 seconds ! same with others.

[tuxen]

tuxen, its the weekend so, please try watching Fox Sports channels 150, 151 right now, too much buffering currently, internationals are also buffering this morning just to list few 1142, 1143.

If others want to tune to these channels and report the amount of buffering (like how often and for how long), that would be great too so we can all compare. currently fox channels are unwatchable.

Edit - I should add that for me 150 is buffering every 30 seconds for about 5-10 seconds ! same with others.

I just checked them.. no buffering here.. bundersliga playing on both fox.

edit: checked 1142 and 1143 ,44, etc, no buffering at all?

[SebsiBC]

I'm trying to watch Discovery USA and its freezing every 15 seconds or so. Typical.

[tuxen]

I'm trying to watch Discovery USA and its freezing every 15 seconds or so. Typical.
now that channel I know :), street outlaws.. no buffering.

[SebsiBC]

No buffering for you on discovery? Shit is unwatchable here. I'm about to drop kick this goddamn avov box off the balcony and read a book.

[tuxen]

nothing here.. I cam'ed all the channels for credibility lol.. the vids are very shaky though I broke my left arm and tries to hold my ipad in front of my tv changing channels now and then lol..

[crazed 9.6]

No buffering for you on discovery? Shit is unwatchable here. I'm about to drop kick this goddamn avov box off the balcony and read a book.

don`t just tell us about it. Get at it !
Before you do thou , please ensure that no one is outside in an area they may be hit by the falling receiver.

[K00lKatT]

bubble wrap that baby first....think safety!!....:)

[pod77]

Just checked as well and no buffering on discovery USA. Gaming laptop hard wired.

[tuxen]

or receive a falling avov. bah d humor

[crazed 9.6]

i generally just go ahead and hit the permanent ban button when someone is dissing the avov.. generally :)

[tuxen]

Just checked as well and no buffering on discovery USA. Gaming laptop hard wired.

did you check 150,151,1142,1143 as per apun's request no buffering here. we are a bit later than his post though.. or only an hour actually. heh

[SebsiBC]

Of course, as soon as I posted it stopped the constant buffering.

I expect it'll resume as soon as I submit this post. Lol

(100mbps, wired)

[crazed 9.6]

Of course, as soon as I posted it stopped the constant buffering.

I expect it'll resume as soon as I submit this post. Lol

(100mbps, wired)
if the posting thing works, then go with it :)
Step away from the balcony.

[apun]

I just checked them.. no buffering here.. bundersliga playing on both fox.

edit: checked 1142 and 1143 ,44, etc, no buffering at all?

are you for real, currently i am watching on kodi on pc with 15 mbps current speed test, what device are you using, also can someone else confirm, its non stop buffering for me :( on all those channels

[K00lKatT]

maybe Rocky gave it his "look"....??....just sayin..

[SebsiBC]

if the posting thing works, then go with it :)
Step away from the balcony.

Lol, grumpy morning. Getting better though. ;)

[crazed 9.6]

are you for real, currently i am watching on kodi on pc with 15 mbps current speed test, what device are you using, also can someone else confirm, its non stop buffering for me :( on all those channels

you don`t have a balcony, do you ??

[dale-63]

you don`t have a balcony, do you ??no but I have a new s and w 357 mag I have been wanting to take target shooting lol

[K00lKatT]

safety shoes may be in order also, if any kicking is planned.......:p

[crazed 9.6]

safety shoes may be in order also, if any kicking is planned.......:p

he has a 357 mag... maybe need more then safety shoes ..

just sayin`
:)

[apun]

I just checked them.. no buffering here.. bundersliga playing on both fox.

edit: checked 1142 and 1143 ,44, etc, no buffering at all?

you know whats funny though, right after all those live matches ended and the same channels started playing other shows, the buffering went away and now i am running smooth on all those channels, but with the live events it was buffering every 30 seconds totally unwatchable, so what am I facing here, this is weird... buffers like no tomorrow while on live events on same channel but after the live event it works buffer-free on the same device/internet with in the same hour :(

[crazed 9.6]

hey wait a sec... dale where did you come from É

No firearms allowed !
KatT, isn`t there a law about firearms É

[tuxen]

are you for real, currently i am watching on kodi on pc with 15 mbps current speed test, what device are you using, also can someone else confirm, its non stop buffering for me :( on all those channels
100% for real I have a mp4 file.. i'll make another one right at this minute too..

edit: no buffering at all..

[Sleekyboy24]

buffering here on 150 151 1142 and 1143 every 30 secs. Running stalker client on m8. Hardwired. Eastern canada

[SebsiBC]

Aaaaand discovery is back to freezing like mad for me again. Lol

[apun]

buffering here on 150 151 1142 and 1143 every 30 secs. Running stalker client on m8. Hardwired. Eastern canada

i am in central canada but im using pc with 8GB ram and same buffering as you.

Buffering has returned for me even on non-live shows now on fox sport 1 & 2 and 1143 etc.. :(

[Sleekyboy24]

I restarted modem and box... Still buffering.
I tried STB emulator same result. Hopefully it gets better by next week. Ufc!!!!
25mbps

[tuxen]

i am in central canada but im using pc with 8GB ram and same buffering as you.

Buffering has returned for me even on non-live shows now on fox sport 1 & 2 and 1143 etc.. :(
still nothing here.. found a ghetto-way to keep the ipad more steady than my stupid arm/hand..

edit: using the firetv from the bedroom.. its exactly the same on my other box(s)/old laptop it doesn't make a difference, yes I checked them except one and the stationary.

going back to my gf she's yelling shouldn't we watch this together lol.. be watching the thread..

[swisstribe]

lots of spanish channels are unwatchable... is it worth buying a mag 254? will it change from kodi? I heard they have problems on kodi... please help... I am in europe and it is the only way i can get those channels... I thought I had finally found a solution... :(

[tuxen]

no the box wont matter in my experience, neither will the emulator. the emulator handles cache and hickups kinda like a mag. kodi can tweak the cache, but if you have buffering look other where than your box, I have 3boxes, 2 laptops, 1 stationary, and its all the same no buffering..

edit: and most of it is not exactly the newest stuff on the block.. I dont really care about the hardware race as long as its fast enough for my needs and most importantly but not always; working when you want to use it.

[remit]

Yesterday was the first time the wife reported that things were watchable, with just a freeze or two per 30 minutes on Nick JR and HGTV. Havent tested today yet (have only had IPTV for about a week).

[SebsiBC]

Gave up on discovery, popped on spike, food network, comedy central, and a couple others all of which were having issues.

Now I'm on 0096 pick (a UK channel) with no freezing at all.

Also, fwiw, I used speedtest.net, picked the farthest server available and was pulling 80mbps+ with a 30ms pingtime. Problem isn't on my end, or at least I can't imagine it is

Edit: 0096 pick is now intermittently freezing as well fwiw.

[Sleekyboy24]

It seems to be more freezing for me today compared to lastweeks...

[tuxen]

ups.. I think we jinxed the service lol

[sat-junkie]

I rarely have buffering issues but it's real bad for me today..i see the new channels added are linked and working so I'm thinking they must be doing maintenance..they will get it fixed

[apun]

weekends and live events is the only time I personally see too much buffering, other than that the service runs smooth, and many other users are also having similar problems on similar channels as I am.

[tuxen]

I have not been home, just about got in the door and ate when I saw apun's post, and obviously as I wrote and taped there was no problems. lets hope they are looking at the encoding for all those US channels that are 'down'. :)

[Sleekyboy24]

There's always next week. I think that would be the best time to compare, UFC 194.

[farzadsux]

wow, I didnt think the problems would last this long. Each channel seems to be getting worse by the day, even basic channels.

[expatter]

It seems that only the UK channels are even remotely close to being watchable, and even that's not without hiccups and freezing. I agree with what others have stated that this seems to be getting worse every day. Very sad here. To think the sheer amount of $$ being made and still this type of service 6 months after going private! Service on my end had been ok for the most part until recently.

[greg]

early today it was running with bad freezing now the service is running very good on both receiver avov fuse and mag 254 and they are both on wireless

[SebsiBC]

Working fine for me at the moment.

[psycon]

the audacity to charge what they were always planing to charge, i say, the nerve of them!!!!!.. yeah it sucks that it is choppy, we all get it... if you really dont like it go pay 10 times more or more to your local provider for something more reliable.... This is no different the FTA people,, there will be issues from time to time, this server is cheap compared to competitors, and costs a tenth of what your local provider would cost.. , it would make sense they are trying to do things on the cheap too to keep end user costs down, they just need to find the right balance is all.. live with it or shell out much more cash to someone else. I have faith they will fix it and we will all be happy again..

[shelly]

there are other providers out there which i will not name as that is just not right they are charging £5 per month and the channels are in HD and more reliable as they only allow a max 300 people per server to stop the freeze and buffer issues, if they can get it right why cant this team

[K00lKatT]

we understand your frustration, the service has hit a rocky patch and will get it corrected. In the mean time please don't discuss other P$ here as it isn't allowed, thks..

[shelly]

yes i know that is why i did not name them i was just trying to make a point which i think i have made thanks for understanding and sorry i had to put that post in to make a point

[K00lKatT]

as stated, we know people are getting frustrated but try to keep your emotions in check, trashing won't cure or help anything. Trust me the provider is working non-stop to correct matters, thks

[Flameangel]

Sorry I think I did say something about another server out of an understanble issue.

[floder2]

Well the Servers in Belize can do just about what you can get from an ISP at there end ...Top speed for commercial use down there is 16mbps (download speed)..don't know what the upload speed is...but it is less then 16mbps............Belize has no Internet Exchange Point ....they have to route all internet through other countries..........

[vampirito]

Server is having a lot of problems; on weekends the channels are soo unwatchable and if you can see in the pic attached the majority are not requesting more than 1.50 Mbps, so not matter your internet speed, the issues comes from the source. During week days, and requesting the same amount of bandwidth, they don't freeze at all and works smooth. I hope they can fix these issues soon, people are getting very frustrated with this. :(:(

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[Pers]

Well the Servers in Belize can do just about what you can get from an ISP at there end ...Top speed for commercial use down there is 16mbps (download speed)..don't know what the upload speed is...but it is less then 16mbps............Belize has no Internet Exchange Point ....they have to route all internet through other countries..........
It is not internet issue mate , the problem is low bandwidth , their current server has not enough bandwidth capacity rather than quantity of customers ,, they should get more bandwidth to solve this issue , If they get 2 or 3 times more bandwidth , the buffer issue will be solved

[apun]

I think we have gotten to the end of this after 14 pages lol (which only proves that yes the problem is there), all I wanted to do was get some other users involved to mention their buffering at peak times, which many of you have done and thanks. As long as the NFPS know that this problem exists hopefully they are already working on solutions.

tuxen you were one of few that did not get any freezing yesterday, not sure why but you can see many other users reported exactly what I reported and experienced, anyways there is no point of just complaining about same thing over and over so lets put this topic to rest for a bit and see what improves on the server. again the server runs smooth during the week, buffering returns on the weekend and for many "big" live events.

at the end of the day, it is the cheapest option we have currently (not by far though 105$ compared to $135 per year), i am pretty sure the team knows if nothing improves people will eventually pay a little bit more to others. So lets all wish them good luck and hope for the best... they have done tremendous job with iks before so expect improvement in iptv too.

for any doubts, we can double confirm all this for ufc 194 ppv on Saturday, but I dont think its necessary for most of us as we already have experienced the buffering already up to now. After that a mod can close this thread. tnx

[Capt.Kangaroo]

As a Mod, I will say there is a problem.
I personally don't know what the problem is but there is one.
I can't watch Sunday Ticket for the freezing problem.
It is being worked on and it will be fixed I'm sure.
Staff here are in the dark as far as what is being done.
The powers that be don't have time to answer questions because they are working on the situation.
It would be nice to hear an update but we'll just have to hang in and know it will improve.
If any of us Staff get any info, I promise we'll pass it on.
Thanks for hanging in during this difficult time.
CK

[floder2]

It is not internet issue mate , the problem is low bandwidth , their current server has not enough bandwidth capacity rather than quantity of customers ,, they should get more bandwidth to solve this issue , If they get 2 or 3 times more bandwidth , the buffer issue will be solved



There is common misconception when it comes to speed and bandwidth or speed and capacity of a network. You must have heard the answers like 512KBPS, 1MBPS or 4MBPS in response to a common question "What is speed of your Network?" But this is bandwidth of network not the speed.

Bandwidth is an important factor but it is not the only factor that contributes to the actual speed of a network. Bandwidth of a network is given by the number of bits that can be transmitted over the network in a given time period. This is expressed in bits per second. Higher bandwidth means higher capacity of network and better speed .If the bandwidth of a data transmission network is 512KBPS then the network is capable of transmitting 512 Kilo Bits of data Per Second. Higher bandwidths are expressed in MBPS and GBPS. This bandwidth factor is known to common person as this is provided by manufacturers.

[andkaal]

Thanks for the update...

[forzaazzurri]

NFL Sunday Ticket was unwatchable today.

[dafatmack]

NFL Sunday Ticket was unwatchable today.

I agree, Sports devil is what I'm using

[tuxen]

I think we have gotten to the end of this after 14 pages lol (which only proves that yes the problem is there), all I wanted to do was get some other users involved to mention their buffering at peak times, which many of you have done and thanks. As long as the NFPS know that this problem exists hopefully they are already working on solutions.

tuxen you were one of few that did not get any freezing yesterday, not sure why but you can see many other users reported exactly what I reported and experienced, anyways there is no point of just complaining about same thing over and over so lets put this topic to rest for a bit and see what improves on the server. again the server runs smooth during the week, buffering returns on the weekend and for many "big" live events.

at the end of the day, it is the cheapest option we have currently (not by far though 105$ compared to $135 per year), i am pretty sure the team knows if nothing improves people will eventually pay a little bit more to others. So lets all wish them good luck and hope for the best... they have done tremendous job with iks before so expect improvement in iptv too.

for any doubts, we can double confirm all this for ufc 194 ppv on Saturday, but I dont think its necessary for most of us as we already have experienced the buffering already up to now. After that a mod can close this thread. tnx

theres a few games tomorrow and Tuesday and then Saturday.. but this thread is turning in to a whining thread.

[dale-63]

theres a few games tomorrow and Tuesday and then Saturday.. but this thread is turning in to a whining thread.with all respect what is the since of having a form if people can't post with people thinking it is winning if that is going to be the case then the modes need to say what can and can't be posted or do, away with the form that is what this all about just my opinion

[crazed 9.6]

Dale, you didn't bring your mag 357 to this conversation, did you ?

Post what you want but don't be disrespectful towards other members and no bashing receivers or the people that make the receivers work.
Especially do not diss the Avov :eek: haaaaa....

If a person is tired of seeing the posts that seem to be depressive, then he can post about and expreess his thoughts about it too.
But, lets not get into each others faces about any of this guys and gals. We don't want that :)

[dale-63]

Dale, you didn't bring your mag 357 to this conversation, did you ?

Post what you want but don't be disrespectful towards other members and no bashing receivers or the people that make the receivers work.
Especially do not diss the Avov :eek: haaaaa....

If a person is tired of seeing the posts that seem to be depressive, then he can post about and expreess his thoughts about it too.
But, lets not get into each others faces about any of this guys and gals. We don't want that :)ok as far as the post about the Avov box I was not putting it down I don't even have one but if I did and was that frustrated to throw it off a balcony I would take target shooting before that I am not trying to bash any one or any box sorry if I came across that way I try had not do that

[crazed 9.6]

i know dale :)

I was having some bit fun with my words, I guess not so funny thou.
Anyway, yea is okay with any previous post made, no worries :)

[tuxen]

with all respect what is the since of having a form if people can't post with people thinking it is winning if that is going to be the case then the modes need to say what can and can't be posted or do, away with the form that is what this all about just my opinion
long: there are not being posted any points, the posting have gone to unnecessary bs that can not be used for anything.
for example, saying you can get all this and more in HD for 5£ is not making a point, its bs
if there where such a service AVALIABLE why are you not a member, why am I not. I know I would check it out right away. please pm me how to.
but that's the problem right someone heard about it, never signed up or had a chance to check out the service for real or ppl would not be here talking better about a provider they only heard about and that can hold a mere 300 rofl users. if you ask me it sounds a lot like somebody profitting on hacked stalker clones, theres a sticking similarity I wont bring up here.


short: if you post your results, location, experience, of a event we can all talk about, I am pretty sure nobody will disallow you anything in here.
grow up. just as with anything, back up your argumentation and i'm pretty sure you can go a long way on this site just like irl.

[tuxen]

for those genuinely interested here is a updated umm.. presentation of what I found back in april: (had to shorten this, and it has a expired or local issue'ed certificate. just press ignore and move on to the document)

bit.do/bx7NQ
once this is up, the buffering should reside for a large part of the community.
and its safe yes, just a pdf from caribnog.org/ - Caribbean network operators group.

its in the pdf, but let me explain what it means not to have a IX if user-a in belize wants to contact user-b in belize user-a will not be routed locally, but all the way to US or EU and back again or worse taking a trip from EU to US also before getting back to user-b. which means users in belize also are taking up bandwidth from US/EU providers which we know some of is cheap especially to parts of the world where they have no control over copyrighted intellectual material. and I dont think its needed to say that they hate everything they cant control, neither for me to express my political views.

[floder2]

So the PDF says Belize is in progress..but not there yet......does not give a time table though............In progress could mean any amount of time until completion

[pod77]

long: there are not being posted any points, the posting have gone to unnecessary bs that can not be used for anything.
for example, saying you can get all this and more in HD for 5£ is not making a point, its bs
if there where such a service AVALIABLE why are you not a member, why am I not. I know I would check it out right away. please pm me how to.
but that's the problem right someone heard about it, never signed up or had a chance to check out the service for real or ppl would not be here talking better about a provider they only heard about and that can hold a mere 300 rofl users. if you ask me it sounds a lot like somebody profitting on hacked stalker clones, theres a sticking similarity I wont bring up here.


short: if you post your results, location, experience, of a event we can all talk about, I am pretty sure nobody will disallow you anything in here.
grow up. just as with anything, back up your argumentation and i'm pretty sure you can go a long way on this site just like irl.

Agreed if there is this great service out there that ran like a "Swiss watch" 😂 that some members say there is I would love to see it... Even major cable providers are testing iptv and having freezing/buffering issues. So with the amount of resources they have and they are having issues what can you expect? This is 29 cents a day and they are constantly working on it, yes it's frustrating but for the cost how can you be mad?(unless you thought this would be your only TV Source) With this service you should have a backup source just incase an issue arises plain and simple. If you think you are going to get hassle free TV for $105 a year than you should only be mad at yourself as that will never happen! For the cost of this service after a few events and movies it has paid for itself! Sorry to all the people who thought they struck gold and decided to be resellers thinking its a get rich scheme... With any business you should always do your homework!!

[shelly]

tried to say somthing about what you are commenting about but post was taken down in response to Tuxen and Pod77 obviously your posts were allowed even though they say about not being disrespectful obviously mods only take rules serious for some the only

[Marley]

look i dont take sides if it true so be it

[pod77]

tried to say somthing about what you are commenting about but post was taken down in response to Tuxen and Pod77 obviously your posts were allowed even though they say about not being disrespectful obviously mods only take rules serious for some the only
How am I being disrespectful?? I am posting the truth and did not point out any one person...

[K00lKatT]

this bickering will cease or the thread will be closed..nuff said..

[tuxen]

Dec 8 - Champions League
150 Fox Sports 1 and 151 Fox Sports 2
2:30 PM EST


just a headsup with buffering or not.
location, box, kodi?version?, and isp optional but might reveal something, what the heck do I know?.
keep the wits up, buffing or not. :)

[Marley]

look they know whats up and they are working on it takes time to fix not ez like push a button i wish

[tuxen]

yeah.. this is mostly apun and I comparing.. ppl are saying its a fact that live events buffer coz its the server that's overloaded. looking to see if it really is a fact coz I never experienced it. admin gets blamed for not being trusted, no matter what they say.. I am an unbiased test individual. if the server really is overloaded I should have the same issue's, and start seeing buffering.

it does not look that way.. both channels are running smooth.. so its not a fact apun and others.

its not the service/servers that's overloaded, its not the addon, the real reason have been explained by a few people in this thread.
and no things are not as easy as pushing a button. :)

[apun]

yeah.. this is mostly apun and I comparing.. ppl are saying its a fact that live events buffer coz its the server that's overloaded. looking to see if it really is a fact coz I never experienced it. admin gets blamed for not being trusted, no matter what they say.. I am an unbiased test individual. if the server really is overloaded I should have the same issue's, and start seeing buffering.

it does not look that way.. both channels are running smooth.. so its not a fact apun and others.

its not the service/servers that's overloaded, its not the addon, the real reason have been explained by a few people in this thread.
and no things are not as easy as pushing a button. :)

I watched Fox sports from 130 - 2:45 est with ZERO Buffering !!

Now with almost 15 mins into the game, It is starting to buffer every 2 mins for 10 seconds, I will report back after the game because just like all the events before, as the event goes on the buffering becomes more and more to a point where the channel is not watchable.

Everyone who wants to report buffer plz mention your device/channel/ buffer length/occurrence. tnx

stalker client 0.8.4 on Kodi 15.2 on PC, 15mbps, ISP = Bell Canada, location Ontario.

[tallman]

i have faith in this service,if you guys look form where these type a service is coming from ,i would say well done,they have come a long way,i'av being there seen lot.

[tuxen]

almost half hour in still no buffering on both channels.. shot a quick mp4 lol
espn2 also showing a match. .dunno how important that one is but no buffering there either.

[apun]

half hour in still no buffering.. shot a quick mp4 lol
espn2 also showing a match. .dunno how important that one is but no buffering there either.

are you able to to record a 10-15 min video now of the match showing your software also plz, i really want to see, because now for me both Fox channels are unwatchable, buffers every 30 seconds. I would appreciate it. thanks make it towards the end of the match if possible. ESPN 2 also buffering for me ....tnx

[tuxen]

sure.. I have to make a getto stand again.. the ipad is dead too now so the end of the match seems fine.

i'll just use my iPhone, I thought I had to intall iTunes and crap to extract the video.. but its the same as ipad.. lol and I only had this iPhone 3 for nearly 10 years.

[tuxen]

oh well fair is fair, I did see some buffer interrupts on fox sports 1, towards the end of the 1st halftime
fox sports 2, espn 2, no interruptions.

[tuxen]

I have the last 10-15 mins on video no buffering on any of the channels. as said fox sports 1 buffered 5-10 times towards the end of 1st half. nothing at all in 2nd half.

edit: crap they are pretty big 200 & 100 MB of cause windows do not play them lol, xbmc does though..
i'll either shrink them to a more playable format than mp4 in a MOV container or just up them somewhere, dont get mad if I fall a sleep and gets finished in the middle of the night or morning. (here)
running on CET, pretty good game btw, not from a team fan view heh I know nothing about that but suspenseful point of view. and changing channels back and forth every 5-10 mins. I saw the goals though lol.

oh btw, I browsed a little in the video so you could see what I am using.

its a fire-tv with android, using kodi 16 Jarvis b3, stalker pvr addon, and a 55" led tv. no advancedsettings file, or any special gimmicks.

upgrading to Jarvis fixed the codec issues one of my devices had and also minor on the firetv after spending some more time with it heh most ppl probably wont even notice it.. I dont believe Jarvis has anything todo with buffering though since its the same.

[apun]

oh well fair is fair, I did see some buffer interrupts on fox sports 1, towards the end of the 1st halftime
fox sports 2, espn 2, no interruptions.

and you know surprisingly in the 2nd half towards the end and right now (games ended) the buffering stopped for me, and now both channels are running smooth with very little bit buffering here and there (which is not bad at all).

Tuxen I just wanted to see why you were not getting buffer before when many of us are, anyways since you also reported we know whats going on and the NFPS team knows, so hopefully they get this sorted, all the best to them the mods can close this thread and everyone can cross their fingers and hope for the best lol

[jrp82]

for me HBO, AMC, CInemax, Starz, Sports.... always buffering every 5 sc. Each days since two weeks now. Only english channels works fine (sky...)

[tuxen]

and you know surprisingly in the 2nd half towards the end and right now (games ended) the buffering stopped for me, and now both channels are running smooth with very little bit buffering here and there (which is not bad at all).

Tuxen I just wanted to see why you were not getting buffer before when many of us are, anyways since you also reported we know whats going on and the NFPS team knows, so hopefully they get this sorted, all the best to them the mods can close this thread and everyone can cross their fingers and hope for the best lol
it was not like the game became unwatchable at any time as said it froze maybe 5-10 times in the end of first half, nothing in second, nothing on fox sports 2 or espn 2.. it could be many things it buffered much to little to really say. it did buffer I'm not denying that. you are saying you get a little buffering here and there, and unwatchable espn 2, fox sports 2, I get none of that, so there still is a very big difference between experiences.

i'm at least at interested as you, but basing this on 5 freezes on one channel and urging mods to close the thread is a bit dodgy. to me at least
ever heard to prove a experiment you have to be able to replicate it.

but if it makes you happy go with it.. i'm not the one with problems, and its is not factual to me unless I can replicate it :)
I will watch tomorrow, and the 12'th, and maybe i'll have been converted.

[Orziz]

I have to agree with you on the Sky channels. They have been the best out of the lot for me.

for me HBO, AMC, CInemax, Starz, Sports.... always buffering every 5 sc. Each days since two weeks now. Only english channels works fine (sky...)

[da3monh4x]

I just trying the service, but I rather IKS better, because IPTV is still on beta phase. I think the team need more "experienced manpower" with them.

[QBeck]

How long does your nose grow with each of your postings, please?

I bet you have it wrapped around your forehead.



it was not like the game became unwatchable at any time as said it froze maybe 5-10 times in the end of first half, nothing in second, nothing on fox sports 2 or espn 2.. it could be many things it buffered much to little to really say. it did buffer I'm not denying that. you are saying you get a little buffering here and there, and unwatchable espn 2, fox sports 2, I get none of that, so there still is a very big difference between experiences.

[apun]

I have the last 10-15 mins on video no buffering on any of the channels. as said fox sports 1 buffered 5-10 times towards the end of 1st half. nothing at all in 2nd half.

edit: crap they are pretty big 200 & 100 MB of cause windows do not play them lol, xbmc does though..
i'll either shrink them to a more playable format than mp4 in a MOV container or just up them somewhere, dont get mad if I fall a sleep and gets finished in the middle of the night or morning. (here)
running on CET, pretty good game btw, not from a team fan view heh I know nothing about that but suspenseful point of view. and changing channels back and forth every 5-10 mins. I saw the goals though lol.

oh btw, I browsed a little in the video so you could see what I am using.

its a fire-tv with android, using kodi 16 Jarvis b3, stalker pvr addon, and a 55" led tv. no advancedsettings file, or any special gimmicks.

upgrading to Jarvis fixed the codec issues one of my devices had and also minor on the firetv after spending some more time with it heh most ppl probably wont even notice it.. I dont believe Jarvis has anything todo with buffering though since its the same.

Dont go through that much hassle, just dont worry about it lol, for me first half was unwatchable and 2nd half was good with little buffering. thanks though

[tuxen]

go figure..


How long does your nose grow with each of your postings, please?

I bet you have it wrapped around your forehead.

[QBeck]

I learned it....what's your excuse?


where you born dumb, or did you learn how to be that stupid?

[Bkman2020]

I have sat on action max mostly all day has not froze one bit.

[crazed 9.6]

WTF is going on in here ?
We are not a forum to be disrespecting others.
I don't care who started it or who insulted who the worst. Bans will be handed out if that's what is needed guys.
Please don't let it get that far !

Okay, the school bell is about to ring. Grab up your books and lunches and lets get to class :eek:

[QBeck]

Ban away....CLOSE away....
It's the ONLY way to stop me from making you cry like a little five year old girl who just dropped her Ice Cream cone, sweetie. :o)

Oh, and HOW exactly will that change your stupidity level?


I figured so trolls often do.. so you just come here to get the thread closed and get banned.. how long did that take you to learn, all 11 years?

[Bkman2020]

I think we need to hammer this one down.

[Bkman2020]

Guys Guys can we all just get along? or we will have to implement vacations?

[crazed 9.6]

Just so you understand, I never threatened a ban, I merely stated what would happen.
QBeck you have a one week vacation.
Sorry but that's what happens.

[tuxen]

lol oh why oh why do I get led on by these people and forget i'm in public when the post says it all.. lol

[crazed 9.6]

looks like QBeck isn't done yet :(
It's so easy to ban these new nics that QBeck comes back with. I just hit ban as Spam and all posts are removed and the nic is permanently banned.
The original nic is still only banned for one week but that may change :eek:

I wish I didn't have to do this,,, sigh :(

[Capt.Kangaroo]

looks like QBeck isn't done yet :(
It's so easy to ban these new nics that QBeck comes back with. I just hit ban as Spam and all posts are removed and the nic is permanently banned.
The original nic is still only banned for one week but that may change :eek:

I wish I didn't have to do this,,, sigh :(
Maybe he'll stop before his ip gets banned. Then he won't get to come back after his 1 week vacation.
Guess thats up to him and you though. :eek:

[crazed 9.6]

Maybe he'll stop before his ip gets banned. Then he won't get to come back after his 1 week vacation.
Guess thats up to him and you though. :eek:

yes, and is reason why I posted last post,,,, so he could see that and maybe curb the damage as it is and not take it further.

[tuxen]

Dont go through that much hassle, just dont worry about it lol, for me first half was unwatchable and 2nd half was good with little buffering. thanks though

yeah it does look like it is not just the internet when it comes to some live events. there is a difference though
and I am still gonna watch that game tomorrow and on Saturday anyways lol
I am the most curios now, dont worry you dont have to stay, I was just trying to keep the thread open. :P

[Marley]

oh i see now said blind man

[generica]

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[tuxen]

i am not affraid to post my results, even though i might have been wrong in my previous experiences.. it was the whole idea by this.
and after yesterday im just more curious, the buffering was so little, but even so the same should happen more or less so.
if i was lying why the heck would I cast doubt over them, that does not make sense at all. if you can not admit your mistakes, you wont learn much. heck the one of the best way to learn is from your mistakes.

also i never doubted that many ppl have buffering problems, like their channels buffer every 5-10 mins.
i tried to explain with good argumentation to why some buffer more, some less, and others not.

what i do not get though is if i had buffering every 5-15 min every day, i would not be around to post crap about the service, i didn't sign up here before or when i got the service either. i signed up a few days or a week or so after, if the service was crap for me i would not even have signed up to join the community that i found out later was not all happy campers :/..

[apun]

i am not affraid to post my results, even though i might have been wrong in my previous experiences.. it was the whole idea by this.
and after yesterday im just more curious, the buffering was so little, but even so the same should happen more or less so.
if i was lying why the heck would I cast doubt over them, that does not make sense at all. if you can not admit your mistakes, you wont learn much. heck the one of the best way to learn is from your mistakes.

also i never doubted that many ppl have buffering problems, like their channels buffer every 5-10 mins.
i tried to explain with good argumentation to why some buffer more, some less, and others not.

what i do not get though is if i had buffering every 5-15 min every day, i would not be around to post crap about the service, i didn't sign up here before or when i got the service either. i signed up a few days or a week or so after, if the service was crap for me i would not even have signed up to join the community that i found out later was not all happy campers :/..

the reason i asked mods to close the thread was because of some kids getting mad and complaining... so mods dont have to babysit them lol not dodging anyone, I am willing to record my screen to show. Anyone knows a program to record my pc screen ? (i could use my iphone but it records in 720p so becomes very large).

what still boggles my mind is why I dont have buffering with regular TV but too much buffering during live events and right after the event buffering goes away (thats why the title of this thread says "BUFFERING DURING PEAK TIMES" not all the time!. Many users in this thread confirmed that also with klitschko ppv fight couple weeks ago (it was funny because HBO PPV stream was buffering crazy and BOXNATION was zero buffer at the same time showing same event) and yes Dec 12 we will know again. It draws more audiance than these group stage champions league so we will have more input from others.

[tuxen]

apun: i was poking at ya to get you to stay, because you where one of the reasonable people here and i like you. :)
watching the match? i sure am. lol i am gonna be turned into a football head like my friends with my testing.

[tuxen]

the reason i asked mods to close the thread was because of some kids getting mad and complaining... so mods dont have to babysit them lol not dodging anyone, I am willing to record my screen to show. Anyone knows a program to record my pc screen ? (i could use my iphone but it records in 720p so becomes very large).

what still boggles my mind is why I dont have buffering with regular TV but too much buffering during live events and right after the event buffering goes away (thats why the title of this thread says "BUFFERING DURING PEAK TIMES" not all the time!. Many users in this thread confirmed that also with klitschko ppv fight couple weeks ago (it was funny because HBO PPV stream was buffering crazy and BOXNATION was zero buffer at the same time showing same event) and yes Dec 12 we will know again. It draws more audiance than these group stage champions league so we will have more input from others.

yeah it is a bit odd, as i wrote fox sports 1 buffered a few times towards the end of 1st half, fox sports 2, espn, and other channels did not buffer at all.
iphone makes some pretty big files even in sd or whatever my old iphone records in, the ipad and newer iphones probably bigger unless they use another compression, now you make me wonder about that lol.. i think there is a ok tool called handbrake to reencode or transcode them.
btw. i do not doubt you at all, dont think that. but it could be fun to see the comparison and what you are experiencing.

[tuxen]

zero buffering today on the 1st half on any of the champions league games showed on fox sports 1 & 2, and espn 2.
apun are you lucky today?

[apun]

zero buffering today on the 1st half on any of the champions league games showed on fox sports 1 & 2, and espn 2.
apun where you lucky today?

lol , man im watching and both fox sports are buffering but not as much as yesterday, I have recorded couple videos and will record one more in the 2nd half and i will post here then we can compare a bit more lol. I wish mine worked as smooth as yours :(

[tuxen]

bummer :/ i recorded 23 min of the last 1st half, recording the 2nd too.

[tuxen]

absolutely no buffering on 2ø'nd half in any of the 3 mathes, got the whole half on video. oh well i'm switching every now and then between the 3 but focusing on fox sport 1. it was the best match imh no football knowledge opinion.

it almost makes me more annoyed now I could not replicate it lol.

[tuxen]

lol , man im watching and both fox sports are buffering but not as much as yesterday, I have recorded couple videos and will record one more in the 2nd half and i will post here then we can compare a bit more lol. I wish mine worked as smooth as yours :(
you can always come and live with uncle tuxen in his cabin the cold north <wink> <wink> lol

yeah i'm weird and love to freak people out, but in a good way. :)
and btw. dont worry I know what you are thinking, I dont live in a cabin lol

[tuxen]

it must have something todo with things (the net) are tightening up at live events, and there is a bad routing point somewhere.
i dont feel like i get super speed either, but just above whats necessary.. and then i guess i am bit closer internet wise, and therefore when things tighten, i can just about keep it going.
i dunno, i know i be looking out for more live events though.

[Sleekyboy24]

@tuxen, since apun have the same isp provider and location as me. What's your location if i may ask. I'm planning to use vpn over the weekend for UFC. I wanna see if there's a difference.

[apun]

absolutely no buffering on 2ø'nd half in any of the 3 mathes, got the whole half on video. oh well i'm switching every now and then between the 3 but focusing on fox sport 1. it was the best match imh no football knowledge opinion.

it almost makes me more annoyed now I could not replicate it lol.

So I finally uploaded the videos I recorded yesterday here it is:
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Video 1: Channel 150 FS1 5 Minute long video, buffered 10 times!

https://vid.me/Pb49
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Video 2: Performed Speed Test before this video on the 15mbps connection, then played FS2 for 5 mins and FS1 for 5 Mins, Buffered 12 Times within that 10 minutes!

https://vid.me/H31y
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Video 3: Here is where it gets interesting, first 5 minutes of this video is of Free Sports Devil Link of exact same channel FS1 with "ZERO" Buffer, the last 5 minutes of video are of same exact channel but on NFPS with 7 Buffers. ???????

https://vid.me/GucK
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Video 4: FS1 - 10 Minute video again with 17 Buffers......

https://vid.me/2TmJ
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with this buffer rate the channels I would say were still watchable but ruins the experience of the match.
After the game FS1 and other channels worked buffer-free!

So again why does it only buffer for me with live events? and why only on nfps and not Sports Devil free link showing the same match on the same channel at the same time ? This is where I stand currently, The buffering in these videos was not as bad as I experienced with couple other live events prior to this so imagine if the channel is watchable or not with more buffering than this...

Again I opened this thread to compare this with others, hopefully something is done to cope with this, not here to whine like many other, and some mods have assured that the team knows this and is working on it....so I rest my case here and wish the team nothing but best! thanks for everyone who left some feedback.

Edit: Running Kodi 15.2 with stalker client 0.8.4 on 15mbps DSL connection on PC.
Same thing happens at my other house for me on my Fire TV Stick with same kodi and stalker on 25mbps Cable internet.

[matrixebiz]

So I finally uploaded the videos I recorded yesterday here it is:
Video 3: Here is where it gets interesting, first 5 minutes of this video is of Free Sports Devil Link of exact same channel FS1 with "ZERO" Buffer, the last 5 minutes of video are of same exact channel but on NFPS with 7 Buffers. ???????

https://vid.me/GucK


Hello, as you can see with the Sport Devil feed it uses ACC audio then with Stalker they use MPEG2 Audio stream and that is where all the problem started when they switched a bunch of their streams to MPEG2 audio from AAC and MP3. A lot of our devices have issues decoding the MPEG 2 streams, FireTV, AMlogic, etc ... but the Nvidia's don't have an issue decoding it.
They need to switch back their streams to AAC or MP3 for us users that can't spend $300 - $400 on a TV Box.

[apun]

Hello, as you can see with the Sport Devil feed it uses ACC audio then with Stalker they use MPEG2 Audio stream and that is where all the problem started when they switched a bunch of their streams to MPEG2 audio from AAC and MP3. A lot of our devices have issues decoding the MPEG 2 streams, FireTV, AMlogic, etc ... but the Nvidia's don't have an issue decoding it.
They need to switch back their streams to AAC or MP3 for us users that don't want to spend $300 on a TV Box.

While I agree with you and with the new MPEG2 audio I have experienced more buffering than before BUT for me...I have been getting the same results even with ACC audio before they switched, live events have been same for me even before MPEG2.

[K00lKatT]

I sympathize with you, but I ask you to pay attention to headend equip. probs and also the security implementation issues. These both affect the level of service. The equip. being replaced is much more specialized than going to Best Buy for a router. When it's posted that it's back-ordered means just that, it has to be built and to the providers specs. So once again I ask that you all have patience, progress is being made as I type this. If you follow the forums and read between the lines this should be more obvious to you, have faith the system will return full force and with a bang!!...thks for your time....:cool:

[matrixebiz]

I sympathize with you, but I ask you to pay attention to headend equip. probs and also the security implementation issues. These both affect the level of service. The equip. being replaced is much more specialized than going to Best Buy for a router. When it's posted that it's back-ordered means just that, it has to be built and to the providers specs. So once again I ask that you all have patience, progress is being made as I type this. If you follow the forums and read between the lines this should be more obvious to you, have faith the system will return full force and with a bang!!...thks for your time....:cool:
Hi, I don't have any problems waiting for them to upgrade their systems because I love the idea of no Cable bill :) but I just hope that they still take into consideration us low budget folk that can't spend $300 on a TV box and to accommodate us and possibly have an option for us users to maybe select what server we connect too in the software. 1 server with MPEG2 decoding and higher video quality for the users that have high-end tv boxes and 1 server with AAC/MP3 lower video quality streams for us users that have the low-end budget tv boxes :) just a suggestion

[K00lKatT]

all I can tell you is the probs are being addressed even as I type. Don't know which $300 dollar boxes you're referring to because they are not necessary to enjoy the service..

[matrixebiz]

all I can tell you is the probs are being addressed even as I type. Don't know which $300 dollar boxes you're referring to because they are not necessary to enjoy the service..
I'm just referring to the popular nVidia Shield TV Boxes. I'm not familiar with all the various tv boxes out here.

[K00lKatT]

popular for gamers mainly, not necessary for our service....and over-priced IMO...:)

[K00lKatT]

to my knowledge their android box is $197 retail and can be had for less...

[matrixebiz]

to my knowledge their android box is $197 retail and can be had for less...
I assume this is USD price? I'm in Canada and our dollar is in the sh1tt3r right now, so for me is $300+ :(

[generica]

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[poolfan]

I sympathize with you, but I ask you to pay attention to headend equip. probs and also the security implementation issues. These both affect the level of service. The equip. being replaced is much more specialized than going to Best Buy for a router. When it's posted that it's back-ordered means just that, it has to be built and to the providers specs. So once again I ask that you all have patience, progress is being made as I type this. If you follow the forums and read between the lines this should be more obvious to you, have faith the system will return full force and with a bang!!...thks for your time....:cool:

Hi do you think the new headend equipment will be replaced and up and running at the same time the new username and password security feature will be introduced

[Puska]

I assume this is USD price? I'm in Canada and our dollar is in the sh1tt3r right now, so for me is $300+ :(

What box are you using? I had good experience with nexus player that's $69.... But I did upgrade to Nvidia shield but nexus player had no issues for channels I watch

[Marley]

its not poor service but yes they know whats going on said that a million times im in same boat as you and i know when its running good or bad i see it

[matrixebiz]

What box are you using? I had good experience with nexus player that's $69.... But I did upgrade to Nvidia shield but nexus player had no issues for channels I watch
I'm using the $40 AMlogic MXV androind TV box

[tuxen]

hi apun,
just got home from family visit. got to take care of real life too, i been spending a lot of time here lately lol the gf was getting a bit annoyed too i think heh..
have to eat (with my gf) and i will read back and check out your vids, and reply any posts. (its 6 pm here)

there are ufc fights on fox sports 2, they seem to be live? connor mcgregor vs dennis siver as the main match.
no buffering? you? almost afraid to ask. heh

edit: oh and post videos matching your time points if possible. have 15min of 1st half and pretty much the whole 2nd half.

[tuxen]

lol that mcgregor guy is crazy.. beat the hell out of siver, jumping over the octagon and getting in aldo's face afterwards..
great fight..

are we sure what channel(s) this is on tomorrow? coz i'm not, and i'm all up and running after watching tonight's fight lol

[apun]

hi apun,
just got home from family visit. got to take care of real life too, i been spending a lot of time here lately lol the gf was getting a bit annoyed too i think heh..
have to eat (with my gf) and i will read back and check out your vids, and reply any posts. (its 6 pm here)

there are ufc fights on fox sports 2, they seem to be live? connor mcgregor vs dennis siver as the main match.
no buffering? you? almost afraid to ask. heh

edit: oh and post videos matching your time points if possible. have 15min of 1st half and pretty much the whole 2nd half.

what live ufc are you talking about? Macgraggor vs siver was in January 2015, there was no live fight yesterday or today. It was a replay of that fight. His biggest fight is Tomorrow and will be on PPV: UFC 194, like we had been waiting. Most likely on Channel 455 and 417 BT Sports 2.

You can compare my 2 last videos with your 2nd half, because I was at work and could not record the first 15 minutes of the 1st half, but there is not much to compare as yours did not buffer and when you watch my videos you will see a lot of buffering lol

[Violator]

I don't game, and nvidia is the only box (vs m8s, nexus, fire) other than a pc that can somewhat keep up to this service (the 10 channels that don't buffer).

worth every dime!

the fact that it plays psp, ps1, ps2, n64, gamecube , wii , sega , nes , snes, dreamcast and every other platform before 1999 is just a bonus. don't knock it til you try it with this service. its day and night with one of these things... the 40w psu is a huge bonus. 179.00 for the unit + free remote controller + gamepad


edit: sorry , tried to reply to KoolKat and lost the quote

[K00lKatT]

there are plenty of other boxes that have no or very little probs with our service, thks....I'll stick with AVOV and be quite happy with it..

[asesinopr]

Hey, MK3 over here running great... count them too...

[sjordash]

mx3, 1gb ram, 10 mbs on speed.. some stations buffer constantly, even sending me back to kodi homepage

Thanks thought it was my setup as both Kodi & TVAddons keep sending me back to the homepage after choosing channels that wont load.

[tuxen]

what live ufc are you talking about? Macgraggor vs siver was in January 2015, there was no live fight yesterday or today. It was a replay of that fight. His biggest fight is Tomorrow and will be on PPV: UFC 194, like we had been waiting. Most likely on Channel 455 and 417 BT Sports 2.

You can compare my 2 last videos with your 2nd half, because I was at work and could not record the first 15 minutes of the 1st half, but there is not much to compare as yours did not buffer and when you watch my videos you will see a lot of buffering lol

told you I was a idiot when it comes to sport...why dont they write this stuff in the epg, so basically ufc fightnight are replays of old fights and new fights are only shown as ppv, oh well i'm getting more and more general sports knowledgeable.. hopefully.. thought it was a bit odd to fight with only 1 day recovery hahaha. it was a great fight though, i had not seen it, a good warmer upper for his biggest fight as you also say

sorry I had to spend time with my gf, she's like its Friday night blabla.. nah it is understandable.. now i'm just sneaking out in the early morning. lol

watched your vids, as you say that really takes the whole experience out of the game, I could imagine it happening when things get exciting, I feel for you :(

I tried speedtest.net as you where using and its finding a server as close to me as possible to test, so I cant really use it for measuring my speed across countries unless I missed something, I tried switching server but it only offers me servers nearby (4 servers in same country as me and its a very small country:)).
tried to move the pyramid thingy too but to no avail? i think its designed that way. never found a speed test that could do that, I searched for local speedtests in different countries instead to get a broader picture. (not something i did now) and i got anywhere from ~10Mbit to my "real" speed with some of the test servers i found.

I have Ethernet in the wall, going to your basement switch and from there fiber, so its pretty straight forward, I have a router of cause to separate my public ip from my local net. i have 3 public ip's i can use to setup a server(s) as long as it's not commercial, my speed supposed to be 100Mbit, which speedtest.net also shows, but it also chooses a server from the same isp as me as default, all of them is like a stone throw away. :/

you are right in there is not much to compare, it was more like if you wanted to see its possible. and for others to see that it is possible

[nib01]

Amazon FireTV stick + kodi 15.2 constant buffering every 1-2-3 seconds. My Internet connections is fine 60-80 mbps that's the actual bandwidth/speed that I'm getting when run speedtest.net, so no problem there at all. I did try all the possible solution by putting the FTV stick closer to the router, and modifying the Video settings to improve streaming like other people did here. NFPS, I want my money back!

[generica]

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[Marley]

generica keep it up they are working on it some say will have a fix soon and where the h did i every say that always said give it time they are working on it

[tuxen]

@generic lol at least you have humor.
no we are not saying that, we are testing if there is a difference in location, as it is now.
seems like there is a bad routing point, and i am sure they are aware of this. there are things to be done to fix this..

relax i'm sure the day will come.

[lopezn3]

Freeeeeeeeeezinggggggggg every 30 second.

[tuxen]

Amazon FireTV stick + kodi 15.2 constant buffering every 1-2-3 seconds. My Internet connections is fine 60-80 mbps that's the actual bandwidth/speed that I'm getting when run speedtest.net, so no problem there at all. I did try all the possible solution by putting the FTV stick closer to the router, and modifying the Video settings to improve streaming like other people did here. NFPS, I want my money back!
using speedtest.net chooses a server as close to you as possible, most likely located on the backbone of your country to get the fastest or best measurement as possible, it does not measure your speed to where the nfps server is located. it would be handy if there was a server to test speed on the same net as nfps servers. but unfourtunatly it would probably make things worse as it is right now, having users test their speed all the time.

[LuluPu]

I posted another threat related to the new boxes with H265 decoding and the amlogic S812 CPU which supposedly the new compression algorithm runs efficiently with only half the bandwidth. I am looking into it because I have the same problem and I have 16 mbts internet but usually only runs 12 or 13 mbts. a box with this new decoder should be a big improvement, it is all is said to be.

[tuxen]

here is a proper test portal and some stats for belize:

this is to a provider over there, it also explains why speedtest.net and isp speedtest's cant really be used for a accurate measurement.

http://testmy.net/hoststats/belize_telemedia_lim
nfps does not seem to use a local provider so you cant use these numbers, they are done by local residents with and to that isp.
it does show how things are for them, they are upgrading their whole infrastructure, and have been at it for 2 years, as soon as things are in place nfps should have a much better connection point. if they choose to use it, or otherwise solve the problem, I have no idea, but I am sure that they do care and do as much as they possible can to better this.

anyway try test your net speed using this, and you can look at the database for some more real life results for isp's, countries, etc. you can choose some servers and stuff when you choose a test to perform.

for example if i choose a server in Dallas, which is far far away from me, i only get little over a quarter of my speed. Australia even worse for me.

[pod77]

So are you guys still saying it is at the user's end ? Ie .. your equipment sucks, your internet connection is worthless, your setup is hosed, you are using the wrong version of the software, the moon is yellow tonight, the earth is red and your money has no value... ???

Seriously it has been getting worse each and every day, today CNN looks like I had it on slow motion replay, History channel was horrible so basically I am going to simply throw them in the garbage and get a paid sub like the good old days ... LOL

It could be on your end as I just watched both for 5 min and not 1 freeze! So yes it could be on your end and as posted there are numerous things that can be causing it.....

[tuxen]

It could be on your end as I just watched both for 5 min and not 1 freeze! So yes it could be on your end and as posted there are numerous things that can be causing it.....
exacty, " there are numerous things that can be causing it" edit: heck, i'm not going to clutter the thread repeating myself and you again lol.
@generic: have you tried a simple test, taking your box/donation to a friend/family to try a different isp/kind of uplink?

[tuxen]

apun: yeah bt sport 2 shows it in the epg 6 hours from now.. "one of the most anticipated title fights in ufc history" lol yeah lets hope it will be good too.

[generica]

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[tuxen]

thanks generica, that is also what we experience in this thread, so you kinda know how much it can differ. i have setup 4 friends with no problems but as said my country is very small. unfortunately its not always fun to be the one who is having a good OMF god this is the coolest iptv experience I had; in here.. i guess its like that for minorities.. <whine> lol

btw. i'm pretty sure you cant install kodi on Roku devices.. :/

edit: of cause i emphasize with you guys that have problems, and i am interested in what is going on and therefore testing all i can from my side. but the problem seems to overwhelming to be able to pinpoint anything accurate, i do not envy the admins of nfps.

did the lucky user you had not have any particular difference compared to the others?

[Bkman2020]

Frozed here a couple of times but was nothing to worry about its still watchable.

[tuxen]

so i guess a lot is gonna watch the fight tonight? :) or middle of the night. heh

[LEAFER9999]

having read pod77 posts for last month its funny, as he would be the one on the titanic rearranging the deck chairs telling passengers all is well whiles it going down lol too funny, not saying stalker is going down as its a great service that's getting better every day and will get better every day , but when there are issues , don't try to lie to the people on here as you have no idea what' going on behind the scenes and aren't in the loop on things , just a wanna be kid poster shooting off your mouth.

[pod77]

having read pod77 posts for last month its funny, as he would be the one on the titanic rearranging the deck chairs telling passengers all is well whiles it going down lol too funny, not saying stalker is going down as its a great service that's getting better every day and will get better every day , but when there are issues , don't try to lie to the people on here as you have no idea what' going on behind the scenes and aren't in the loop on things , just a wanna be kid poster shooting off your mouth.
I'm not lieing thx never have and what extacly would I gain? Never said I knew what's going on anyplace again thx;) I am posting what I am seeing on my system and many others are having the same experience. Last I knew calling people liars in here was a no no! Also not a kid so who shooting who mouth off? Only person is you!

[tuxen]

I posted another threat related to the new boxes with H265 decoding and the amlogic S812 CPU which supposedly the new compression algorithm runs efficiently with only half the bandwidth. I am looking into it because I have the same problem and I have 16 mbts internet but usually only runs 12 or 13 mbts. a box with this new decoder should be a big improvement, it is all is said to be.
that requires providers to encode the transport stream in H265 which is at this time or any near future not likely. streaming h264 to a box that supports h265 wont speed up anything.
the codec promises some awesome stuff, you are correct in that, and some early HEVC/H265 rips are already out for the few to test. :)
but before every box and your mothers laptop support H265 I do not think we will see it replace H264.

[tuxen]

I'm not lieing thx never have and what extacly would I gain? Never said I knew what's going on anyplace again thx;) I am posting what I am seeing on my system and many others are having the same experience. Last I knew calling people liars in here was a no no! Also not a kid so who shooting who mouth off? Only person is you!
that's what I mean if you have no real problems with the service and likes the forum, you are attacked as a liar and a mod lover by some.. first me then you.
we have a saying over here; thief thinks everybody steals.. quite fitting if you ask me or read the posts.

[pod77]

that's what I mean if you have no real problems with the service and likes the forum, you are attacked as a liar and a mod lover by some.. first me then you.
we have a saying over here; thief thinks everybody steals.. quite fitting if you ask me or read the posts.

Thank you!

[DKodi]

So why do you get your panties in a bunch if someone says they're having a negative experience with the service?

Let 'em.
Why does it bother YOU so much?

It's ONLY .29 cents...just send it to my "sendmemoney@paypal.***"

[pod77]

So why do you get your panties in a bunch if someone says they're having a negative experience with the service?

Let 'em.
Why does it bother YOU so much?

It's ONLY .29 cents...just send it to my "sendmemoney@paypal.***"

Exactly it's 29cents a day and you aren't paying $100 + a month on cable! Anyone who is pissed off thinking that for $105 A YEAR they are going to get quality perfect service is living in a dream world and you can only be mad at yourself plain and simple! For the cost per year and the issues that do come up this service is well worth it! To bitch and moan that you paid good money for this service and demand uninterrupted TV is maddening, if you want that then this is not for you and you should just pay a cable provider......

[tuxen]

no one here gets pissed if someone posts if they have buffering in tonight's match or right now.
where do you see that, and in which way?

its not like you are being doubted or attacked as a liar if you post your experience of what you see.
contrary I emphasize with those who have a bad experience, isn't it normal decent human behavior to do that?

by experience is not meant your personal feelings, money spent, or personal outrage against the service, I think that's where it goes wrong.

[tuxen]

30min to the fight I'm all psyched up, is that a side effect of my new sports habit? am i getting hooked? and how do i get of this stuff when i'm done?

[apun]

30min to the fight I'm all psyched up, is that a side effect of my new sports habit? am i getting hooked? and how do i get of this stuff when i'm done?

I am watching it on BT Sports 2 and surprisingly No Buffering at all today. Watching at home today rather than work plus its night time not the usual daytime live events lol but lets not jinx it, the main 2 fights are about to begin will report back after the final fight. so far its GREATTTTT!! good job nfps !

[pod77]

Don't say it's working good members will say your lieing!! 😉

[Capt.Kangaroo]

Its working great, has been all night.
Enough with the lying crap.